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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 15 12.58pm
[Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 Jun 15 12.58pm

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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Jun 15 1.02pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 15 1.06pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. I doubt its Anarchism.....A major may be powerful within his area but he still has to work within and under the state. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

I doubt its Anarchism.....A major may be powerful within his area but he still has to work within and under the state.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 15 1.09pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. It can be argued that socialism drives away external investment. That its higher taxes upon the more wealthy drive them away from the tax system completely. That's why the poor always end up paying for the mistakes of state.....Because they can't leave, take their stuff and get out. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

It can be argued that socialism drives away external investment.
That its higher taxes upon the more wealthy drive them away from the tax system completely.

That's why the poor always end up paying for the mistakes of state.....Because they can't leave, take their stuff and get out.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Lyons550 Shirley 24 Jun 15 1.11pm
What will happen when the bottom falls out of the Olive oil market...they'll be fooked! The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 24 Jun 15 1.11pm

What will happen when the bottom falls out of the Olive oil market...they'll be fooked!

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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johnno42000 24 Jun 15 2.08pm
It's good until you have to pick the person to be burnt in the Wicker Man to make sure of a bumper harvest. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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24 Jun 15 2.08pm

It's good until you have to pick the person to be burnt in the Wicker Man to make sure of a bumper harvest.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Part Time James 24 Jun 15 2.16pm
Haven't read the link. Is it about Jonestown? Reckon it'll all end in tears.
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Haven't read the link. Is it about Jonestown? Reckon it'll all end in tears.

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Scucca Ely 24 Jun 15 2.36pm
Actually it's closer to true communism than socialism. But I bet the mayor gets more than the labourers! So maybe it's more like a feudal system. Anyway, it certainly isn't anarchism. A very structured society, as this is, is almost a polar opposite of anarchism.
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Ely 24 Jun 15 2.36pm

Actually it's closer to true communism than socialism. But I bet the mayor gets more than the labourers! So maybe it's more like a feudal system. Anyway, it certainly isn't anarchism. A very structured society, as this is, is almost a polar opposite of anarchism.

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 24 Jun 15 2.41pm
Socialism works pretty well in the NFL.
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Sedlescombe 24 Jun 15 2.41pm

Socialism works pretty well in the NFL.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Jun 15 2.50pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 1.09pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. It can be argued that socialism drives away external investment. That its higher taxes upon the more wealthy drive them away from the tax system completely. That's why the poor always end up paying for the mistakes of state.....Because they can't leave, take their stuff and get out. I think it depends on the nation in question. Certainly across Europe the adoption of socialist policies hasn't really resulted in a lack of investment or external investment. In extremis, I think you have a valid point, where it becomes economically very preferable to move away, but where the additional taxation levels aren't dramatic, people prefer to stay closer to home. Disagree with the second paragraph entirely, capitalism in pre-socialist periods in no way empowered or prevented poverty, indeed the poverty engendered by capitalist exploition, notably of the industrial era, resulted in the formation and establishment of socialism. Socialist theory, Marxism, communism etc occurred as a criticism and critic of Capitalism's excesses and exploitations. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm

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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

It can be argued that socialism drives away external investment.
That its higher taxes upon the more wealthy drive them away from the tax system completely.

That's why the poor always end up paying for the mistakes of state.....Because they can't leave, take their stuff and get out.

I think it depends on the nation in question. Certainly across Europe the adoption of socialist policies hasn't really resulted in a lack of investment or external investment. In extremis, I think you have a valid point, where it becomes economically very preferable to move away, but where the additional taxation levels aren't dramatic, people prefer to stay closer to home.

Disagree with the second paragraph entirely, capitalism in pre-socialist periods in no way empowered or prevented poverty, indeed the poverty engendered by capitalist exploition, notably of the industrial era, resulted in the formation and establishment of socialism.

Socialist theory, Marxism, communism etc occurred as a criticism and critic of Capitalism's excesses and exploitations.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 24 Jun 15 3.35pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. Absolutely it is. The definition of Anarchy is not 'without rules' but 'without rulers'...and it would f***ing work In the developed world at any rate there isn't socialism or capitalism in their truest form - Both have lurched towards corporatism and an enslavement to business - usually in the West, its the financial business. Edited by The Sash (24 Jun 2015 3.37pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 24 Jun 15 3.35pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm

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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism.

Absolutely it is.

The definition of Anarchy is not 'without rules' but 'without rulers'...and it would f***ing work

In the developed world at any rate there isn't socialism or capitalism in their truest form - Both have lurched towards corporatism and an enslavement to business - usually in the West, its the financial business.

Edited by The Sash (24 Jun 2015 3.37pm)

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 15 3.58pm
Quote The Sash at 24 Jun 2015 3.35pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm [Link] I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives. What do you think? That's not socialism, that Anarchism. I like it. Personally I don't think socialism really makes peoples lives worse here, arguably things like welfare, disability living allowance and the NHS serve to cushion the impact of capitalism and post-industrialism. Absolutely it is. The definition of Anarchy is not 'without rules' but 'without rulers'...and it would f***ing work In the developed world at any rate there isn't socialism or capitalism in their truest form - Both have lurched towards corporatism and an enslavement to business - usually in the West, its the financial business. Edited by The Sash (24 Jun 2015 3.37pm) You can't have rules without rulers......It's a contradiction. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 Jun 15 3.58pm

Quote The Sash at 24 Jun 2015 3.35pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Jun 2015 1.02pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jun 2015 12.58pm

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I may have just found an example where socialism is actually bettering the lives of the many rather than unintentionally worsening lives.

What do you think?

Absolutely it is.

The definition of Anarchy is not 'without rules' but 'without rulers'...and it would f***ing work

Edited by The Sash (24 Jun 2015 3.37pm)

You can't have rules without rulers......It's a contradiction.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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