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derben  14 Jun 15 5.55pm |
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Apparently he was a "loving, kind, caring and affable teenager" ... "he never harboured any ill will against anybody nor did he ever exhibit any violent, extreme or radical views of any kind". Good job he wasn't a nasty bloke, goodness knows what he would have done then. Edited by derben (14 Jun 2015 5.59pm)
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 Mad4palace 14 Jun 15 7.48pm |
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I find the tone which the media speaks of jihadists that are under 18 as primarily victims very annoying. When we're talking about 14/15 year olds I have a little more understanding that they can be exploited but at 17 your decisions are your decisions.
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| Mapletree Croydon 14 Jun 15 8.09pm |
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Nope. I take it you don't have a 17 year old of your own.
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| derben 14 Jun 15 8.12pm |
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Quote Mad4palace at 14 Jun 2015 7.48pm
I find the tone which the media speaks of jihadists that are under 18 as primarily victims very annoying. When we're talking about 14/15 year olds I have a little more understanding that they can be exploited but at 17 your decisions are your decisions. I think you are being unfair to 14/15-year-olds, they would consider putting people in cages and setting them on fire a bad thing.
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| reborn 14 Jun 15 8.28pm |
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Quote derben at 14 Jun 2015 5.55pm
Apparently he was a "loving, kind, caring and affable teenager" ... "he never harboured any ill will against anybody nor did he ever exhibit any violent, extreme or radical views of any kind". Good job he wasn't a nasty bloke, goodness knows what he would have done then. Edited by derben (14 Jun 2015 5.59pm)
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Percy of Peckham  Eton Mess 14 Jun 15 8.59pm |
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Brainwashed or bullied? What a terrible waste of a young person's life. So sad for parents to have their children hijacked to do these evil deeds.
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| laddo london 14 Jun 15 9.02pm |
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The sad truth is that these kids are being groomed. They believe they are fighting a worthy cause. We all know it's not 'worthy' but through western policy in the Middle East it is understandable why some might think they are fighting an imperial monster, exploiting Muslim countries. What we need to do is truly understand young Muslims grievances. What type of kids are more likely to be exploited. How can we stop and punish those who abuse the innocence of these kids. A number will suggest that is liberal nonsense. However, I think a number of these young people are victims, just as a 16/17 year old kid is who gets exploited into believing the EDL or Britain First are have legitimate political causes.
laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". |
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| Alexi_the_Eagle Newton-le-Willows 14 Jun 15 9.11pm |
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One less ISIS traitor to worry about. No sympathy from me. We should grow some backbone, give ISIS their wish and wipe them out, just like the dinosaurs. Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (14 Jun 2015 9.11pm)
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| derben 14 Jun 15 9.24pm |
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Quote laddo at 14 Jun 2015 9.02pm
The sad truth is that these kids are being groomed. They believe they are fighting a worthy cause. We all know it's not 'worthy' but through western policy in the Middle East it is understandable why some might think they are fighting an imperial monster, exploiting Muslim countries. What we need to do is truly understand young Muslims grievances. What type of kids are more likely to be exploited. How can we stop and punish those who abuse the innocence of these kids. A number will suggest that is liberal nonsense. However, I think a number of these young people are victims, just as a 16/17 year old kid is who gets exploited into believing the EDL or Britain First are have legitimate political causes. Quite a big number I think you will find. How many people have EDL or Britain First killed? As unpleasant as they are, it is ridiculous to compare them with ISIS.
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| reborn 14 Jun 15 9.39pm |
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Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 14 Jun 2015 9.11pm
One less ISIS traitor to worry about. No sympathy from me. We should grow some backbone, give ISIS their wish and wipe them out, just like the dinosaurs. Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (14 Jun 2015 9.11pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 15 9.39pm |
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Quote derben at 14 Jun 2015 9.24pm
Quote laddo at 14 Jun 2015 9.02pm
The sad truth is that these kids are being groomed. They believe they are fighting a worthy cause. We all know it's not 'worthy' but through western policy in the Middle East it is understandable why some might think they are fighting an imperial monster, exploiting Muslim countries. What we need to do is truly understand young Muslims grievances. What type of kids are more likely to be exploited. How can we stop and punish those who abuse the innocence of these kids. A number will suggest that is liberal nonsense. However, I think a number of these young people are victims, just as a 16/17 year old kid is who gets exploited into believing the EDL or Britain First are have legitimate political causes. Quite a big number I think you will find. How many people have EDL or Britain First killed? As unpleasant as they are, it is ridiculous to compare them with ISIS. Why are you comparing the EDL to ISIS?
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| derben 14 Jun 15 9.46pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 14 Jun 2015 9.39pm
Quote derben at 14 Jun 2015 9.24pm
Quote laddo at 14 Jun 2015 9.02pm
The sad truth is that these kids are being groomed. They believe they are fighting a worthy cause. We all know it's not 'worthy' but through western policy in the Middle East it is understandable why some might think they are fighting an imperial monster, exploiting Muslim countries. What we need to do is truly understand young Muslims grievances. What type of kids are more likely to be exploited. How can we stop and punish those who abuse the innocence of these kids. A number will suggest that is liberal nonsense. However, I think a number of these young people are victims, just as a 16/17 year old kid is who gets exploited into believing the EDL or Britain First are have legitimate political causes. Quite a big number I think you will find. How many people have EDL or Britain First killed? As unpleasant as they are, it is ridiculous to compare them with ISIS. Why are you comparing the EDL to ISIS? Because Laddo did?
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