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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 16 Jun 14 7.28am | |
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Quite a vivid question put by a presenter on BBC this weekend. Are radical Muslims the new Nazi's ? (Obviously, not ALL Muslims, just the few radical ones) I watched the disturbing pictures this morning of around 200 Iraqi soldiers who were captured by ISIS whilst in their barracks. They were then all butchered. The depravity of mankind seems to be bottoming-out with the atrocities committed in the name of religion, and in particular, Islam. As Britain, (formerly, Great Britain), tiptoes around human rights, and swerves racism, and allows Muslims to wear full face-masks, not just in public, but in airport departure points, (something that wouldn't have been tolerated during the decades of IRA activity) Am I scare-mongering, or are these radicals a significant problem ? 9/11, 7/7, 'The Muslim Patrols' in London, and now the mobilisation of militia who are causing atrocities in the name of Islam in the power vacuum created by western military withdrawl. Would I have a happier life if I stopped reading/watching The News, or would I be complicit in ignoring issues outside my own tiny sphere of influence ?
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aceedi 16 Jun 14 8.10am | |
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Yes.
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wombat84 16 Jun 14 8.49am | |
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Yes.
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Satan_Claus Aalborg 16 Jun 14 9.01am | |
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Yes. According to academic surveys, approximately 50% of the muslim population in Europe could be labelled "fundamentalist" and 15% "extremist". Similar percentages are seen in many muslim countries, and the reason for all their recent problems during the so called "arabic spring" which sadly might end in an "arabic fimbulwinter" ... Western leaders have identified the problem far too late.
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Catfish Burgess Hill 16 Jun 14 9.48am | |
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Where 36% of British ms,ins agree with death for apostasy then the answer is yes.
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jun 14 10.07am | |
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I suppose if Adolf were alive today with a bushy beard and having been brought up in Algeria his 1930's speeches about land and race and superiority could effortlessly be mirrored today with him shouting about the greatness of a Maghreb Union, killing Infidels and the one God Allah. But, then again, if he'd been born an Ultra-Orthodox Jew or a fundamentalist Christian or militant Buddhist then he could also be talking about ideological/religious enemies, land grabs and other Gods in terms of acceptable violence against those who beg to differ. An extreme nutter is an extreme nutter whatever their hue. Worse case scenario is a massive fundamentalist Muslim link up from pakistan all the way to Morocco. Is it a big problem for us if that did happen? Could just leave them to it and forget about democratising them. Only about 750million Muslims who aren't nutters would want to come here.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 14 10.07am | |
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Only if you boil it right down to being murder thugs There is a lot of difference between National Socialism and the extremist Islamist movemenets (violent and non-violent) - indeed theres a lot of difference between Islamist groups, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Saudi - in fact that latter two hate each other quite passionately). I don't think the two can really be compared except in terms of their authoritarianism. Certainly, the Nazi's wouldn't have had much truck with Islamism or Arabs except where it was convenient.
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jun 14 10.10am | |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 10.07am
Only if you boil it right down to being murder thugs There is a lot of difference between National Socialism and the extremist Islamist movemenets (violent and non-violent) - indeed theres a lot of difference between Islamist groups, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Saudi - in fact that latter two hate each other quite passionately). I don't think the two can really be compared except in terms of their authoritarianism. Certainly, the Nazi's wouldn't have had much truck with Islamism or Arabs except where it was convenient.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 14 10.21am | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Jun 2014 10.10am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 10.07am
Only if you boil it right down to being murder thugs There is a lot of difference between National Socialism and the extremist Islamist movemenets (violent and non-violent) - indeed theres a lot of difference between Islamist groups, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Saudi - in fact that latter two hate each other quite passionately). I don't think the two can really be compared except in terms of their authoritarianism. Certainly, the Nazi's wouldn't have had much truck with Islamism or Arabs except where it was convenient.
I was thinking more of agents and anti-british/french movements, as that didn't involve a dose of nasty melty face.
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aceedi 16 Jun 14 10.30am | |
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Why do they fall out so much over the 60s folk-rock duo, Sony and Cher?
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aceedi 16 Jun 14 10.34am | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Jun 2014 10.07am
I suppose if Adolf were alive today with a bushy beard and having been brought up in Algeria his 1930's speeches about land and race and superiority could effortlessly be mirrored today with him shouting about the greatness of a Maghreb Union, killing Infidels and the one God Allah. But, then again, if he'd been born an Ultra-Orthodox Jew or a fundamentalist Christian or militant Buddhist then he could also be talking about ideological/religious enemies, land grabs and other Gods in terms of acceptable violence against those who beg to differ. An extreme nutter is an extreme nutter whatever their hue. Worse case scenario is a massive fundamentalist Muslim link up from pakistan all the way to Morocco. Is it a big problem for us if that did happen? Could just leave them to it and forget about democratising them. Only about 750million Muslims who aren't nutters would want to come here. We would have to turn a blind eye to the opening of concentration camps for Jews (and probably Christians too)?
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Hoof Hearted 16 Jun 14 10.57am | |
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Quote aceedi at 16 Jun 2014 10.30am
Why do they fall out so much over the 60s folk-rock duo, Sony and Cher?
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