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Johnny Byrne Pinner 14 Apr 14 11.16am
Seeing Liverpool's win yesterday got me thinking. We now have a solid backroom staff with Palace connections as former players (Kemp, Wood and Francis) and supporters (Millen) and loyal long standing coaching staff (Issott). If we retain the likes of Speroni in a coaching capacity post playing days to add to the team, then I think we could do what Shankly did for Liverpool in the late 50's to mid 70's and build a solid football foundation which is 100% Palace. Thoughts? 1 June 2010 - saved from oblivion by CPFC 2010 27 May 2013 - promoted to Premier League 2013-14 - 11th in PL 2014-15 - 10th in PL 2015-16 - 15th in PL 2016-17 - 14th in PL (and grateful for that!)
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Johnny Byrne

Pinner 14 Apr 14 11.16am

Seeing Liverpool's win yesterday got me thinking.

We now have a solid backroom staff with Palace connections as former players (Kemp, Wood and Francis) and supporters (Millen) and loyal long standing coaching staff (Issott). If we retain the likes of Speroni in a coaching capacity post playing days to add to the team, then I think we could do what Shankly did for Liverpool in the late 50's to mid 70's and build a solid football foundation which is 100% Palace.

Thoughts?

1 June 2010 - saved from oblivion by CPFC 2010
27 May 2013 - promoted to Premier League
2013-14 - 11th in PL
2014-15 - 10th in PL
2015-16 - 15th in PL
2016-17 - 14th in PL (and grateful for that!)

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 14 Apr 14 11.22am
Johnny, We have our best opportunity since Dowie of staying in the PREMIER league and progressing. Traditionally THE PALACE have self destructed. But if 2010 stay focussed and Pulis stays and we build slowly we have a great chance. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 14 Apr 14 11.22am

Johnny,

We have our best opportunity since Dowie of staying in the PREMIER league and progressing.

Traditionally THE PALACE have self destructed.

But if 2010 stay focussed and Pulis stays and we build slowly we have a great chance.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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PALACE FOR EVER London 14 Apr 14 1.16pm
Quote Johnny Byrne at 14 Apr 2014 11.16am Seeing Liverpool's win yesterday got me thinking. We now have a solid backroom staff with Palace connections as former players (Kemp, Wood and Francis) and supporters (Millen) and loyal long standing coaching staff (Issott). If we retain the likes of Speroni in a coaching capacity post playing days to add to the team, then I think we could do what Shankly did for Liverpool in the late 50's to mid 70's and build a solid football foundation which is 100% Palace. Thoughts? In Shankley's days it would of been easier (not easy) as I'm sure teams employed less backroom staff. A club having the same manager for a lengthy time helps as every manager often wants the staff he has had in the past. It wouldn't surprise me if other clubs did the same as there would of been far less done to employ staff. I'm not saying they were complacent but I can't see a club then looking through who was available and having meetings about who they should get. Like the idea but if a better coach for a certain position is available then perhaps you may have to choose them. Edited by PALACE FOR EVER (14 Apr 2014 1.18pm) The pyramid to beat all pyramids!! [Link] Find out what team is in which division, eg which division is Coppull United in?
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Quote Johnny Byrne at 14 Apr 2014 11.16am

Seeing Liverpool's win yesterday got me thinking.

Thoughts?

In Shankley's days it would of been easier (not easy) as I'm sure teams employed less backroom staff. A club having the same manager for a lengthy time helps as every manager often wants the staff he has had in the past.

It wouldn't surprise me if other clubs did the same as there would of been far less done to employ staff. I'm not saying they were complacent but I can't see a club then looking through who was available and having meetings about who they should get.

Like the idea but if a better coach for a certain position is available then perhaps you may have to choose them.

Edited by PALACE FOR EVER (14 Apr 2014 1.18pm)

The pyramid to beat all pyramids!!

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Find out what team is in which division, eg which division is Coppull United in?

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Catfish Burgess Hill 14 Apr 14 1.31pm
I have rarely known sch optimism at the club but we need a bit of a reality check. The current squad is gelling into an impressively disciplined unit and is greater than the sum of its parts. It is though not a strong squad n premiership terms and the chances are that we will be in another relegation scrap next year - albeit with better odds than we started with this year. We have been lucky this year with injuries. The lack of depth and experience has not been exposed as it might have been. Next year we may not be so lucky unless we can keep the talent coming through and add a couple of old heads in key positions. Ideally we need versatile players who can fill more than one gap. I doubt if we will see an expensive prima donna striker coming to Palace this summer. I expect to see large guys who are difficult to dominate and good in the air. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 14 Apr 14 1.31pm

I have rarely known sch optimism at the club but we need a bit of a reality check. The current squad is gelling into an impressively disciplined unit and is greater than the sum of its parts. It is though not a strong squad n premiership terms and the chances are that we will be in another relegation scrap next year - albeit with better odds than we started with this year.
We have been lucky this year with injuries. The lack of depth and experience has not been exposed as it might have been. Next year we may not be so lucky unless we can keep the talent coming through and add a couple of old heads in key positions. Ideally we need versatile players who can fill more than one gap. I doubt if we will see an expensive prima donna striker coming to Palace this summer. I expect to see large guys who are difficult to dominate and good in the air.

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7@burnley79 Battersea 14 Apr 14 1.43pm
Quote Catfish at 14 Apr 2014 1.31pm I have rarely known sch optimism at the club but we need a bit of a reality check. The current squad is gelling into an impressively disciplined unit and is greater than the sum of its parts. It is though not a strong squad n premiership terms and the chances are that we will be in another relegation scrap next year - albeit with better odds than we started with this year. We have been lucky this year with injuries. The lack of depth and experience has not been exposed as it might have been. Next year we may not be so lucky unless we can keep the talent coming through and add a couple of old heads in key positions. Ideally we need versatile players who can fill more than one gap. I doubt if we will see an expensive prima donna striker coming to Palace this summer. I expect to see large guys who are difficult to dominate and good in the air. Agreed in part Catfish, but my biggest concern is we wont be massive underdogs next season. Our performances have been real gritty backs to the wall encounters, which i have enjoyed watching. I hope i'm wrong, but if we start to have any aspirations with the current squad that we deserve to be in the prem year in year out now, our togetherness and determination will fracture. Keeping that together will be Pulis's biggest achievement for next season.
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Quote Catfish at 14 Apr 2014 1.31pm

Agreed in part Catfish, but my biggest concern is we wont be massive underdogs next season. Our performances have been real gritty backs to the wall encounters, which i have enjoyed watching. I hope i'm wrong, but if we start to have any aspirations with the current squad that we deserve to be in the prem year in year out now, our togetherness and determination will fracture. Keeping that together will be Pulis's biggest achievement for next season.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 14 Apr 14 1.47pm
Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing?
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 14 Apr 14 1.47pm

Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing?

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TUX redhill 14 Apr 14 5.48pm
I hope i'm wrong, but if we start to have any aspirations with the current squad that we deserve to be in the prem year in year out now, our togetherness and determination will fracture. Keeping that together will be Pulis's biggest achievement for next season. -------------------------------- TP achieved it at Stoke and he'll carry it on with us bud, of that I have no doubts. We're currently 8th in the 'since Pulis took over league standings' which is not only a massive achievement by the man, but it also bodes well for the current squad going into next season. We finally have a stable board and experienced manager. Who knows, maybe a couple of signings in the summer, a few tweaks here and there and the real possibility of a season or two of 'mid-table mediocrity' beckons? Boring I know, but we could all do with a breather
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redhill 14 Apr 14 5.48pm

I hope i'm wrong, but if we start to have any aspirations with the current squad that we deserve to be in the prem year in year out now, our togetherness and determination will fracture. Keeping that together will be Pulis's biggest achievement for next season.
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TP achieved it at Stoke and he'll carry it on with us bud, of that I have no doubts.
We're currently 8th in the 'since Pulis took over league standings' which is not only a massive achievement by the man, but it also bodes well for the current squad going into next season.
We finally have a stable board and experienced manager. Who knows, maybe a couple of signings in the summer, a few tweaks here and there and the real possibility of a season or two of 'mid-table mediocrity' beckons?
Boring I know, but we could all do with a breather

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Seth On a pale blue dot 14 Apr 14 5.59pm
Building a legacy means keeping hold of Pulis. I'm a natural pessimist after supporting Palace for 40 years but if we can keep hold of him and build on this season's astonishing turnaround in fortunes, then we may finally have a chance of making something permanent out of what we've achieved so far. We've had so many false dawns in the past I won't believe it until it happens, but I have a feeling it may finally be our time to shine. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 14 Apr 14 5.59pm

Building a legacy means keeping hold of Pulis. I'm a natural pessimist after supporting Palace for 40 years but if we can keep hold of him and build on this season's astonishing turnaround in fortunes, then we may finally have a chance of making something permanent out of what we've achieved so far.

We've had so many false dawns in the past I won't believe it until it happens, but I have a feeling it may finally be our time to shine.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 14 Apr 14 6.24pm
Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 1.47pm Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing? Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm)
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Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 1.47pm

Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p

Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm)

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 15 Apr 14 12.40pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 14 Apr 2014 6.24pm Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 1.47pm Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing? Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm) See your point Eastender, but this is the Palace legacy and I like it as it just needs honing.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 15 Apr 14 12.40pm

Quote EastEndPalace at 14 Apr 2014 6.24pm

Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 1.47pm

Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p

Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm)

See your point Eastender, but this is the Palace legacy and I like it as it just needs honing.

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Pinky Kent 15 Apr 14 1.07pm
We've never been a sleeping giant, more a slightly annoying dwarf, but I'd love to see us mature into a credible mid-table (and beyond) Prem club (all this yo-yoing makes me feel queasy) with a decent stadium. Not too much to ask after 109 years, is it?
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Kent 15 Apr 14 1.07pm

We've never been a sleeping giant, more a slightly annoying dwarf, but I'd love to see us mature into a credible mid-table (and beyond) Prem club (all this yo-yoing makes me feel queasy) with a decent stadium. Not too much to ask after 109 years, is it?

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 15 Apr 14 2.10pm
Quote Pinky at 15 Apr 2014 1.07pm We've never been a sleeping giant, more a slightly annoying dwarf, but I'd love to see us mature into a credible mid-table (and beyond) Prem club (all this yo-yoing makes me feel queasy) with a decent stadium. Not too much to ask after 109 years, is it? How old are you Pinky? Palace really are a sleeping giant. In one of the most heavily populated areas in the world the word potential has been done to death. The problem is whether Palace will ever mature. There has been a few false starts, but basically each time there is a move up, like at the moment, Palace are adding to their legacy. Are there enough years in the future for Palace to eventually do it? Why not.
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Quote Pinky at 15 Apr 2014 1.07pm

How old are you Pinky? Palace really are a sleeping giant. In one of the most heavily populated areas in the world the word potential has been done to death. The problem is whether Palace will ever mature. There has been a few false starts, but basically each time there is a move up, like at the moment, Palace are adding to their legacy. Are there enough years in the future for Palace to eventually do it? Why not.

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