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paulose17 Sutton 05 Mar 14 9.41am | |
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What most of us knew already:
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deano77 guildford 05 Mar 14 10.25am | |
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Brings nothing to the team , as the stats show!! Oh I forgot ,we play better when he's in the team by all accounts on here , what a load of tosh !! Championship player ..simple as that
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Hoof Hearted 05 Mar 14 10.33am | |
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I've not been that keen on him, but those stats are abysmal. O'Keefe always looks the better player when he replaces Dikagoi.
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Username Horsham 05 Mar 14 10.34am | |
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Christ. We're going purely by stats now are we? Why even bother playing games, we can just look at who has the highest rating like a game of top trumps. KG has been in the starting XI more often than not under every manager he has had at Palace. People who work with the players every day and know more about football than anyone on this site have decided he is a valuable player and worth his place. Personally, I do think the signing of Ledley will see his contribution get a bit smaller, but writing off a player who has been so key in some of our biggest results of the last three years is ridiculous.
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Hoof Hearted 05 Mar 14 10.41am | |
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Quote Username at 05 Mar 2014 10.34am
Christ. We're going purely by stats now are we? Why even bother playing games, we can just look at who has the highest rating like a game of top trumps. KG has been in the starting XI more often than not under every manager he has had at Palace. People who work with the players every day and know more about football than anyone on this site have decided he is a valuable player and worth his place. Personally, I do think the signing of Ledley will see his contribution get a bit smaller, but writing off a player who has been so key in some of our biggest results of the last three years is ridiculous.
O'Keefe was immense when he came on. Stats don't lie.... and for me bear out my gut feeling that he's out of his depth in the Prem. I appreciate that he has had good games for us and his attitude and work rate are good.
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deano77 guildford 05 Mar 14 10.44am | |
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He's poor , gives you absolutely nothing going forward but that's just my opinion !! He near enough sits in the back 4 and his pass completion must be woeful also ..I understand he is a different player to Williams , bannan and Ledley ..but we have Jedi who plays that shielding role in front of the back 4 , do we really need 2 players doing the same job !! Like I said just my opinion ,
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deano77 guildford 05 Mar 14 10.47am | |
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And as hoof hearted said , I do think he gives his all and is committed but def out of his depth at this level, we are carrying him a little bit
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Username Horsham 05 Mar 14 11.43am | |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Mar 2014 10.41am
Quote Username at 05 Mar 2014 10.34am
Christ. We're going purely by stats now are we? Why even bother playing games, we can just look at who has the highest rating like a game of top trumps. KG has been in the starting XI more often than not under every manager he has had at Palace. People who work with the players every day and know more about football than anyone on this site have decided he is a valuable player and worth his place. Personally, I do think the signing of Ledley will see his contribution get a bit smaller, but writing off a player who has been so key in some of our biggest results of the last three years is ridiculous.
O'Keefe was immense when he came on. Stats don't lie.... and for me bear out my gut feeling that he's out of his depth in the Prem. I appreciate that he has had good games for us and his attitude and work rate are good. If O'Keefe was the star performer, why did Freedman, Holloway, Millen and Pulis all overlook him in favour of KG? If you want to pick out individual games how about the play semi second leg where KG was a colossus, or Everton at home? SOK looks great when he comes on, harrying and chasing the ball down but positionally he is not as good as KG. That is why he gets picked, because he is nearly always in the right place at the right time and is a great partner for Jedinak. His positioning means Jedinak can come out and make those interceptions and challenges, knowing that KG is still there in behind him. Plus he's also physically more imposing than O'Keefe.
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Username Horsham 05 Mar 14 11.44am | |
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Quote deano77 at 05 Mar 2014 10.44am
He's poor , gives you absolutely nothing going forward but that's just my opinion !! He near enough sits in the back 4 and his pass completion must be woeful also ..I understand he is a different player to Williams , bannan and Ledley ..but we have Jedi who plays that shielding role in front of the back 4 , do we really need 2 players doing the same job !! Like I said just my opinion ,
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 05 Mar 14 11.47am | |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Mar 2014 10.41am
Like the playoff final? O'Keefe was immense when he came on. Stats don't lie.... and for me bear out my gut feeling that he's out of his depth in the Prem. I appreciate that he has had good games for us and his attitude and work rate are good.
Stats don't lie?! You're old enough and ugly enough to know that's bollocks, Hoof.
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paulose17 Sutton 05 Mar 14 11.47am | |
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Quote Username at 05 Mar 2014 11.44am
Quote deano77 at 05 Mar 2014 10.44am
He's poor , gives you absolutely nothing going forward but that's just my opinion !! He near enough sits in the back 4 and his pass completion must be woeful also ..I understand he is a different player to Williams , bannan and Ledley ..but we have Jedi who plays that shielding role in front of the back 4 , do we really need 2 players doing the same job !! Like I said just my opinion ,
Are you sponsoring his shirt or something
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Moose In the sewer pipe... 05 Mar 14 12.32pm | |
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I just get the feeling that Jedinak is more comfortable playing alongside KG than other DMs and this raises Jedinak's game going forward to the benefit of the whole team. Regardless of the stats, if I'm right that must have a bearing on the importance of KG.
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