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kent675 Flag Bromley, Kent 28 Feb 14 8.31am Send a Private Message to kent675 Add kent675 as a friend

It could be worse, very worse. Read this...

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skj Flag Bedale, North Yorkshire (Ex-Carsha... 28 Feb 14 8.58am Send a Private Message to skj Add skj as a friend

Thank goodness he didn't say at the end of the interview he wanted to go and find a red and blue club he wanted to build up.

We can count our blessings there

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Feb 14 8.59am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Silly man thinks Solskjaer WILL keep them up.

Silly man doesn't realise or know that being relegated is a completely different ball game to this season. It's going to take a lot longer than a couple of months to 'study' and know 'a lot about football' when that happens. Should be good viewing.

 


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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 28 Feb 14 9.51am Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

He really doesn't like Moody.

 

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victor43 Flag St. Albans 28 Feb 14 9.51am Send a Private Message to victor43 Add victor43 as a friend

I don't think he's as bad as people make out. Mackay was quite harshly treated but they did p*ss an impressive amount of money up the wall last summer. Some of the figures I heard are ridiculous.
Makes sense he wants to have more oversight over spending now.

The thing I don't agree with is changing the kit, but there is nothing to stop an owner from doing that, which may be an issue.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Feb 14 9.54am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote victor43 at 28 Feb 2014 9.51am

The thing I don't agree with is changing the kit, but there is nothing to stop an owner from doing that, which may be an issue.

We changed our colours from claret and blue and we even changed our nickname to the 'Eagles' !


 

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7@burnley79 Flag Battersea 28 Feb 14 10.11am Send a Private Message to 7@burnley79 Add 7@burnley79 as a friend

It's becoming obvious to me that common sense comes at a price. I'm thinking of becoming a crank in order to maximise my earning potential.
Then I will change my flat from a pastel mocha to a vibrant red and blue with a hint of brilliant yellow trim round the woodwork.

 

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 28 Feb 14 10.23am Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

There is no doubt this is shrewd business man. He sees his investment as just that. The only 'personal' thing he has allowed is the alteration of the clubs colours.He states this as a traditional belief that blue is unlucky and red fortunate. If we think this is mumbo-jumbo than why should we care what colours our teams turn out in? For me the red and blue is a bit of betrayal as the original livery was claret and light blue, from the clours of Aston Villa way back when the club was founded. But the pity of it is more to do with tradition, and tradition is what much of what makes sense to us in all forms of life, from naming our kids to voting. But its his concern, he bought it.
But this lack of respect for the tradition and roots of this fiery old club seems to be the thing people sre bothered about. Although clubs are commercial affairs their whole existence and raison d'etre is this love and tradition held by those who support the club. Without that support a club would be nothing. Even manure fans and all of their superficial leanings to glory have reservations in this matter. They may be commercially successful but this will not hide the fact every fan sees his team as something much more. For Mr Tan to be accepted and to being popular relies on him un derstanding this.
Conversely, our board are very much into the ethos of tradition and love of the club. I think we're lucky, even if it means we may not achieve commercially.

 

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kent675 Flag Bromley, Kent 28 Feb 14 11.55am Send a Private Message to kent675 Add kent675 as a friend

Interesting that he suggests that Mackay and Moody overspent without authority by £15m! What sort of company allows that???

 


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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 28 Feb 14 11.58am Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote kent675 at 28 Feb 2014 11.55am

Interesting that he suggests that Mackay and Moody overspent without authority by £15m! What sort of company allows that???


Just bpick any bank or privatised utility

I like it thet red is lucky and blue isnt - hows that working out for you Vince ????

 


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kent675 Flag Bromley, Kent 28 Feb 14 12.27pm Send a Private Message to kent675 Add kent675 as a friend

Quote adrian b at 28 Feb 2014 10.23am


There is no doubt this is shrewd business man. He sees his investment as just that. The only 'personal' thing he has allowed is the alteration of the clubs colours.He states this as a traditional belief that blue is unlucky and red fortunate. If we think this is mumbo-jumbo than why should we care what colours our teams turn out in? For me the red and blue is a bit of betrayal as the original livery was claret and light blue, from the clours of Aston Villa way back when the club was founded. But the pity of it is more to do with tradition, and tradition is what much of what makes sense to us in all forms of life, from naming our kids to voting. But its his concern, he bought it.
But this lack of respect for the tradition and roots of this fiery old club seems to be the thing people sre bothered about. Although clubs are commercial affairs their whole existence and raison d'etre is this love and tradition held by those who support the club. Without that support a club would be nothing. Even manure fans and all of their superficial leanings to glory have reservations in this matter. They may be commercially successful but this will not hide the fact every fan sees his team as something much more. For Mr Tan to be accepted and to being popular relies on him un derstanding this.
Conversely, our board are very much into the ethos of tradition and love of the club. I think we're lucky, even if it means we may not achieve commercially.

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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Feb 14 1.00pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

I think Adrian's post is a bit problematic.

>There is no doubt this is shrewd business man.

In his football-related dealings, I would say there is a serious amount of doubt. He has alienated his customer-base, allowed a key employee to mis-spend many millions of pounds (by his own admission) due to lack of oversight, and has fired his key management figure and replaced him with some who has 0 days experience working in the competitive environment in which he has been placed. Shrewd? Being a shrewd investor is not the same thing as being a shrewd football club owner.

>He sees his investment as just that.

Really? And his first step is pissing off the people who buy his product by changing its most fundamental aspect (the clubs identity and colours). Don't know about you, but that's not how I'd treat something if I saw it as an investment. In fact, I'd say he's treating like a toy that he can do anything he wants with. And, sadly, he can.

> If we think this is mumbo-jumbo than why should we care what colours our teams turn out in?

People care about the colour change because it bucks traditional identity, not because it's mumbo-jumbo. But even that is secondary. If the buying public express a desire for a certain type of product, only a fool would say "get lost...I'm going to sell you something that you don't want instead, just because I can."

My conclusion is that Tan has acted like an idiot. And it's about to cost him quite a lot of money.


 


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