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 Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 08 May 23 9.50am |
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Dreyfuss is Jewish by ethnicity, so what makes a white person? Simply not being 'a person of colour'?
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Stirlingsays  08 May 23 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Dreyfuss is Jewish by ethnicity, so what makes a white person? Simply not being 'a person of colour'? I often find this point interesting. European Jews are generally genetically mixed in with European DNA....some obviously more than others. My take on it is that if a Jew considers themselves white and is positive towards Europeans I accept that. If they consider themselves non white then I also take them at their word.
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| YT Oxford 08 May 23 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He is indeed largely right, and I don't imagine for a moment he will be "cancelled" as a result of speaking his mind. I agree though that the colour of a person's skin should not matter at all. Whether that is the original, or the actor, unless the context of the role explicitly involves racism. I don't know if you read the article, but what 'The Academy' has done here goes way beyond whether an actor should be of a certain colour or non-colour.
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| Matov 08 May 23 11.21am |
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He needs to shut the f*** up. White people need to stop whingeing and whining, accept the new reality and then just do what white people always do. Adapt and thrive. Who gives a s*** about an award if it is tainted in this way? Just do whatever you do, to the best of your ability and show an in-group preference when it comes to supporting others in a similar predicament. White people really are becoming a moaney bunch of wimps.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 08 May 23 4.31pm |
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Of course, he's right. Most would agree. The mystery is why, despite the obvious absurdity of it all, it's still being allowed to happen. Who are the people making these decisions, and how do we get rid of them? Time to man up people.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by YT
I don't know if you read the article, but what 'The Academy' has done here goes way beyond whether an actor should be of a certain colour or non-colour. I did read it and it's very unhealthy. I have never been in favour of any organisation trying to solve genuine issues of diversity and prejudice through the introduction of quotas.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.43pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I often find this point interesting. European Jews are generally genetically mixed in with European DNA....some obviously more than others. My take on it is that if a Jew considers themselves white and is positive towards Europeans I accept that. If they consider themselves non white then I also take them at their word.
That's a shocking attitude. What does it matter? They are all humans. Their skin colour is down to how much sunlight their ancestors lived under together with how much interbreeding with people from other groups has happened. People ought not be separated in any such arbitrary way. If you believe in a meritocracy, as you claim to, then how does this approach match it?
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| Stirlingsays 08 May 23 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's a shocking attitude. What does it matter? They are all humans. Their skin colour is down to how much sunlight their ancestors lived under together with how much interbreeding with people from other groups has happened. People ought not be separated in any such arbitrary way. If you believe in a meritocracy, as you claim to, then how does this approach match it? Perhaps you need to be speaking to the Jews then because they clearly don't agree with you. Apparently Jews are not different....with this argument you are basically saying that the the Holocaust was just Europeans killing other Europeans or humans and so shouldn't be seen as anymore significant than any other WW2 death as for example many more Russians died than Jews. Personally, in most cases, I accept a person's ethnic self definition unless I think they are lying or deluded. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2023 12.44am)
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