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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 Feb 23 7.14am | |
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Is this where we are at ?
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Matov 17 Feb 23 7.40am | |
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Capitalism is the least worse option, to coin a phrase. The notion of a market economy has its faults but it has consistently proved the model by which supply and demand works its way through and allows surpluses to be created. The issue we have at the moment is effectively the influence of both corporations and the petro-dollar. The later will, I expect, be negated by technology and Corporations will effectively implode on themselves in the way that they always do. What follows, then I do not know but outside of some world in which the primary driver of market forces is eliminated i.e scarcity, then a market economy, and the subsequent capitalism it creates, will be with us in one form or the other. Any attempts to crush it through other means invariably ends in failure. And let's not forget that despite all the current worries and woes, we are still living longer (and not sure that is a good thing but bringing personal issues to the table on that one) on average than any human before and the global increase in living standards over the last 100 years is unprecedented.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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cryrst The garden of England 17 Feb 23 6.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Capitalism is the least worse option, to coin a phrase. The notion of a market economy has its faults but it has consistently proved the model by which supply and demand works its way through and allows surpluses to be created. The issue we have at the moment is effectively the influence of both corporations and the petro-dollar. The later will, I expect, be negated by technology and Corporations will effectively implode on themselves in the way that they always do. What follows, then I do not know but outside of some world in which the primary driver of market forces is eliminated i.e scarcity, then a market economy, and the subsequent capitalism it creates, will be with us in one form or the other. Any attempts to crush it through other means invariably ends in failure. And let's not forget that despite all the current worries and woes, we are still living longer (and not sure that is a good thing but bringing personal issues to the table on that one) on average than any human before and the global increase in living standards over the last 100 years is unprecedented. Alongside capitalism dragging more people out of poverty than any other form of ‘rule’. fwoabw.
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HeathMan Purley 17 Feb 23 11.05pm | |
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I saw the title and thought of Swiss "end of life" clinics making too much from their captive client base.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Feb 23 10.50am | |
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capitalism, socialism, feudalism, mercantilism, theism.... they all fail eventually. the US is allegedly one the the wealthiest countries, and vast swathes of cities like Baltimore are filled with homeless junkies. Super high house-prices and the place looks like the shanties of Soweto. And now Ireland, UK, Canada and lots of other places are going the same way. wait til the petrol gets expensive and watch places built on the motorcar all fail. Las Vegas, Milton Keynes etc etc.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Feb 23 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
capitalism, socialism, feudalism, mercantilism, theism.... they all fail eventually. the US is allegedly one the the wealthiest countries, and vast swathes of cities like Baltimore are filled with homeless junkies. Super high house-prices and the place looks like the shanties of Soweto. And now Ireland, UK, Canada and lots of other places are going the same way. wait til the petrol gets expensive and watch places built on the motorcar all fail. Las Vegas, Milton Keynes etc etc. I'd be more immediately concerned about food getting expensive. I think the thread has an interesting premise - people should take a look at what Marx and Engels actually said, rather than listen to US anti communist propaganda.
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