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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jan 23 9.20am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yesterday I read a report that said that the Board were not satisfied with PV's performance last season. I find that questionable given our league placing and cup run. But it appears that the media are smelling blood at the moment, and there's usually an element of truth at such times.

Let's face it, it would be typical of Palace to implode !

I read that also and wonder where the story came from as it can only have come from the inner sanctum

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jan 23 9.31am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

My guess as to plan.

1) Our squad is good enough to stay up.

2) Bring a few from academy.

Players are too expensive in January.

Fill urgent need with loans if the terms suit.

Get a few in August.


Spend prudently.

Ignore whinging fans with hopelessly unrealistic expectations and overly pessimistic views of our prospects.


Who says that our squad is good enough to stay up and we can always bring in a few from the academy?

Certainly not the club's manager who is really the only one qualified to make such claims as he has gone on record saying that the squad needs strengthening.

"Players are too expensive in January." This didn't stop the club from buying Schlupp, Van Aanholt and Milivojevic in January 2017 without whom we were likely to have been relegated and everyone knows that we desperately need a decent central midfielder now as we are one or two injuries away from disaster, partly as other clubs have been willing to pay current prices for players that they have deemed necessary to improve their squads.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 28 Jan 23 9.39am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


Who says that our squad is good enough to stay up and we can always bring in a few from the academy?

Certainly not the club's manager who is really the only one qualified to make such claims as he has gone on record saying that the squad needs strengthening.

"Players are too expensive in January." This didn't stop the club from buying Schlupp, Van Aanholt and Milivojevic in January 2017 without whom we were likely to have been relegated and everyone knows that we desperately need a decent central midfielder now as we are one or two injuries away from disaster, partly as other clubs have been willing to pay current prices for players that they have deemed necessary to improve their squads.

You restructured my post! Is that allowed?

2017 was a very different time. We were in the position those teams below us are.

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Jan 23 9.56am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

He is not an employee of the Americans he is a share holder also.

He is a minority shareholder who, on his own, doesn't have a direct say in the direction of the club (though he can venture his opinion in board meetings and try to get other shareholders on his side). He IS an employee of the club put in his position by the majority shareholders. If the majority shareholders decided they wanted another CEO, Parish would be gone though as a minority owner, he would remain on the board of the club. Once again, in his role as CEO he is an EMPLOYEE of CPFC, reporting to the majority shareholders who control the board that hired him.

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

There has been no public statement saying we have no budget nor that there has been any disagreement between the board.

I think you will find that John Textor has openly made a number of public statements recently suggesting that in his view, the club should be more aggressive in its pursuit of players but acknowledging that as another minority shareholder, there is little he can do on his own to ensure that happens.

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

If i was a betting man . i would put my money on Parrish being the obstical when it comes to the recruitment of players , he has said it himself he doesnt like paying up extortionate fees to agents and paying players thousands of pounds a week for something they love doing , and i can understand that as he is a self made man and had to work hard for his wealth .

There is a difference between being cautious and sensible with money, and downright refusing to spend it. I agree that Parish would, left to his own devices (which is NOT the case) be a cautious chairman who would spend only carefully, but I also believe he is far more attuned to the realities of football than Harris and Blitzer and would far more quickly recognise where and when spending was needed. However, at present, as CEO of the club, his job is to enact the instruction the board gives him and no one who wants to keep his job publicly undermines his boss. So if Parish is told "you have no transfer budget" then whatever he personally thinks, he doesn't make a fuss and he doesn't buy any players. That's what good employees do.

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

The truth of the matter is that if we cant sign players that we need now to stay comfortably in this league , how are we going to sign and replace the 11-12 players that are out of contract too old or move on in the summer . Its all just Smoke and Mirrors .

Because when eleven players come off the books, their wages come off the books too and that frees up the sum of operating capital required to replace them. Suddenly you have a million pounds a week in salary (or whatever the sum of their wages is) in your budget that you're not spending anymore. You wait until summer because the summer transfer market is much more favourable to buyers than the January one, where generally you buy only in emergency (to avoid relegation or win something).

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jan 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

My guess as to plan.

Our squad is good enough to stay up.

Players are too expensive in January.

Fill urgent need with loans if the terms suit.

Get a few in August.

Bring a few from academy.

Spend prudently.

Ignore whinging fans with hopelessly unrealistic expectations and overly pessimistic views of our prospects.

I don't think most of us are unrealistic in our expectations. Charlton fans drove Curbishley out of the club because they wanted to kick on and weren't happy with mid table mediocrity and we all know what happened next.

I think most Palace fans realise it is unrealistic for us to be pushing for a top 8 finish (unless the stars align) with big money signings.

Most of us would settle for a midfield enforcer which we should have got in the summer a Championship player would be fine.

We failed to sign the Bristol City player if we really were in for him that was not a huge amount to pay.

 


One more point

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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jan 23 10.21am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

You restructured my post! Is that allowed?

I'm not sure if you are serious or not but assuming that you are I changed the order of the seven points that you made as I only wanted to answer two of them and it made things easier

 

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Swindy Flag Bromley 28 Jan 23 10.36am Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Bring in a few from the Academy ????? !!!!!
On what planet ?
Apart from a few minutes last week for David Ozoh and Rak -Sakhyi last season, the young players are all loaned.
The Academy will only be of use next season, if, as could easily happen, the continuous complacency of the club, results in relegation.

 

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 29 Jan 23 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


Who says that our squad is good enough to stay up and we can always bring in a few from the academy?

Certainly not the club's manager who is really the only one qualified to make such claims as he has gone on record saying that the squad needs strengthening.

"Players are too expensive in January." This didn't stop the club from buying Schlupp, Van Aanholt and Milivojevic in January 2017 without whom we were likely to have been relegated and everyone knows that we desperately need a decent central midfielder now as we are one or two injuries away from disaster, partly as other clubs have been willing to pay current prices for players that they have deemed necessary to improve their squads.

Sakho as well on loan. Does show that some loan signings in Jan can make a difference, Paul Stewart did as well some seasons back, as the rumblings from SP seem to indicate that is where we are presently, although they are the minority not the norm. 2 of those players, Schlupp and Luka (Sakho and PVA have both gone) perhaps shows the predicament we might be in at the moment, as I don't personally believe they should be here after 5 seasons, based on their recent performances, both in their 30's, and contributing little of note this season and showing their weaknesses at this level now. We are probably trying to get rid of the "dead wood" before we can relight the fire with the squad but finding it difficult due to inflated wages/longish contracts in the past etc. Somebody mentioned on another thread that Schlupp was on the same wage as Gallagher this season

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