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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 17 Jan 23 6.22pm
If they pay a hugely inflated transfer fee which enables us to address other areas in the team then it’s a yes from me
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Bexley Kent 17 Jan 23 6.22pm

If they pay a hugely inflated transfer fee which enables us to address other areas in the team then it’s a yes from me

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 23 11.59am
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle If they pay a hugely inflated transfer fee which enables us to address other areas in the team then it’s a yes from me 20 mil bandied about. With the added pleasure of getting to watch Ayew on the right wing in every game. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 23 11.59am

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

If they pay a hugely inflated transfer fee which enables us to address other areas in the team then it’s a yes from me

20 mil bandied about. With the added pleasure of getting to watch Ayew on the right wing in every game.

Red and Blue Army!

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taylors lovechild 18 Jan 23 12.41pm
Olise has been one of the few positives of late so I hope this is all nonsense. If we don't sign anyone of note and we sold Olise to Lyon I think Textor would have to go and hide out in a bunker in Brazil.
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Olise has been one of the few positives of late so I hope this is all nonsense. If we don't sign anyone of note and we sold Olise to Lyon I think Textor would have to go and hide out in a bunker in Brazil.

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Spiderman Horsham 18 Jan 23 1.52pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider When Textor completed his acquisition of Lyon he announced they are the cornerstone of his multi club company. When he bought into Palace I think we all assumed that we would be the top dog that his other clubs would feed. Luckily he only has a minority stake of Palace. Lyon is a much bigger club than us. Impressive 60,000 seater stadium well positioned in the city with its academy alongside. Plus the city want them. Bit disappointing the way he’s swung his interest there, but understandable. We must make sure he doesn’t get any more Palace shares. With Harris and Blitzer going cold on us, ( not that they were ever even warm) and apparently no shareholder funds to use, we need to be re evaluating our position. [Link] Can anyone explain in English please? Not sure how this will benefit Palace
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Horsham 18 Jan 23 1.52pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

When Textor completed his acquisition of Lyon he announced they are the cornerstone of his multi club company. When he bought into Palace I think we all assumed that we would be the top dog that his other clubs would feed.

Luckily he only has a minority stake of Palace.

Lyon is a much bigger club than us. Impressive 60,000 seater stadium well positioned in the city with its academy alongside. Plus the city want them.

Bit disappointing the way he’s swung his interest there, but understandable.

We must make sure he doesn’t get any more Palace shares.

With Harris and Blitzer going cold on us, ( not that they were ever even warm) and apparently no shareholder funds to use, we need to be re evaluating our position.

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Can anyone explain in English please? Not sure how this will benefit Palace

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EagleinSF San Fransisco 18 Jan 23 2.21pm
Hmmmm, it won't. If that article is true then Textor is just looking to make money (big surprise). Basically package all the ownerships together (done) find a shell company (done) and launch on one of the public exchanges (NYSE or Nasdaq). Looks like he's aiming for 1.2 billion so a huge return and he doesn't have to worry about us being relegated and losing money as he'll be cashed out.
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San Fransisco 18 Jan 23 2.21pm

Hmmmm, it won't. If that article is true then Textor is just looking to make money (big surprise). Basically package all the ownerships together (done) find a shell company (done) and launch on one of the public exchanges (NYSE or Nasdaq). Looks like he's aiming for 1.2 billion so a huge return and he doesn't have to worry about us being relegated and losing money as he'll be cashed out.

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becky over the moon 18 Jan 23 3.16pm
Originally posted by EagleinSF Hmmmm, it won't. If that article is true then Textor is just looking to make money (big surprise). Basically package all the ownerships together (done) find a shell company (done) and launch on one of the public exchanges (NYSE or Nasdaq). Looks like he's aiming for 1.2 billion so a huge return and he doesn't have to worry about us being relegated and losing money as he'll be cashed out. He doesn't have 'ownership' in or of CPFC 2010, as it is a Private Limited Company, an entirely & legally separate entity to it's Shareholders. All he can lump together would be his Shareholdings, which I would wonder if they would be of interest to anyone as a 'package' A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 18 Jan 23 3.16pm

Originally posted by EagleinSF

He doesn't have 'ownership' in or of CPFC 2010, as it is a Private Limited Company, an entirely & legally separate entity to it's Shareholders. All he can lump together would be his Shareholdings, which I would wonder if they would be of interest to anyone as a 'package'

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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samprior Hamburg 18 Jan 23 3.27pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC 20 mil bandied about. With the added pleasure of getting to watch Ayew on the right wing in every game. This story must be utter nonsense. He's one of our most valuable players so the suggestion of selling him for 20m to our co-owner would be laughable... however this is Palace!
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Hamburg 18 Jan 23 3.27pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

20 mil bandied about. With the added pleasure of getting to watch Ayew on the right wing in every game.

This story must be utter nonsense. He's one of our most valuable players so the suggestion of selling him for 20m to our co-owner would be laughable... however this is Palace!

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Jan 23 3.32pm
Originally posted by becky He doesn't have 'ownership' in or of CPFC 2010, as it is a Private Limited Company, an entirely & legally separate entity to it's Shareholders. All he can lump together would be his Shareholdings, which I would wonder if they would be of interest to anyone as a 'package' He's looking to flip all his holdings and pass them onto some other mug. The key question here is what control does the board have over his 40% holding if he sales that can we block it if we don't like the look of the buyer. One more point
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Beckenham 18 Jan 23 3.32pm

Originally posted by becky

He's looking to flip all his holdings and pass them onto some other mug.

The key question here is what control does the board have over his 40% holding if he sales that can we block it if we don't like the look of the buyer.

One more point

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Jan 23 3.35pm
I've been meaning to post this from another site. ""Now we are part of the Textor Eagle Bidco empire…I’ve been thinking how it may impact us. [Link] I work in private debt & Ares are one of the largest debt funds in the market. As part of this deal, Eagle Bidco will now have significant leveraged debt which needs servicing ahead of player investment (a bit like the high yield bonds the glazers put in when they acquired United). There will also be covenants in place which means if the earnings of the empire drop, Ares will be able to enforce and take control of Textor’s share of Crystal Palace. If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!) So, whilst being part of this project is good if everything goes well, it significantly increases the risk if things don’t. Having debt in place as well may also mean restrictions when it comes to spending money on developing the stadium etc (unless they raised additional Capital for this as part of the deal."" One more point
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Beckenham 18 Jan 23 3.35pm

I've been meaning to post this from another site.

""Now we are part of the Textor Eagle Bidco empire…I’ve been thinking how it may impact us.

[Link]

I work in private debt & Ares are one of the largest debt funds in the market.

As part of this deal, Eagle Bidco will now have significant leveraged debt which needs servicing ahead of player investment (a bit like the high yield bonds the glazers put in when they acquired United). There will also be covenants in place which means if the earnings of the empire drop, Ares will be able to enforce and take control of Textor’s share of Crystal Palace.

If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!)

So, whilst being part of this project is good if everything goes well, it significantly increases the risk if things don’t.

Having debt in place as well may also mean restrictions when it comes to spending money on developing the stadium etc (unless they raised additional Capital for this as part of the deal.""

One more point

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Jan 23 3.43pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I've been meaning to post this from another site. ""Now we are part of the Textor Eagle Bidco empire…I’ve been thinking how it may impact us. [Link] I work in private debt & Ares are one of the largest debt funds in the market. As part of this deal, Eagle Bidco will now have significant leveraged debt which needs servicing ahead of player investment (a bit like the high yield bonds the glazers put in when they acquired United). There will also be covenants in place which means if the earnings of the empire drop, Ares will be able to enforce and take control of Textor’s share of Crystal Palace. If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!) So, whilst being part of this project is good if everything goes well, it significantly increases the risk if things don’t. Having debt in place as well may also mean restrictions when it comes to spending money on developing the stadium etc (unless they raised additional Capital for this as part of the deal."" Thanks Badger. Is this essentially a variation on the dicing and slicing and repackaging mortgages that ultimately led to the 2007/8 banking crisis albeit on a smaller scale at present? or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Jan 23 3.43pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I've been meaning to post this from another site.

""Now we are part of the Textor Eagle Bidco empire…I’ve been thinking how it may impact us.

[Link]

I work in private debt & Ares are one of the largest debt funds in the market.

If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!)

So, whilst being part of this project is good if everything goes well, it significantly increases the risk if things don’t.

Having debt in place as well may also mean restrictions when it comes to spending money on developing the stadium etc (unless they raised additional Capital for this as part of the deal.""

Thanks Badger. Is this essentially a variation on the dicing and slicing and repackaging mortgages that ultimately led to the 2007/8 banking crisis albeit on a smaller scale at present? or am I barking up the wrong tree?

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Midlands Eagle 18 Jan 23 4.13pm
Quote There will also be covenants in place which means if the earnings of the empire drop, Ares will be able to enforce and take control of Textor’s share of Crystal Palace. If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!) Textor is a minority shareholder and therefore cannot force the sale of players without the agreement of at least a further 11% of the shares. There will also be a shareholders agreement in place which probably covers such eventualities
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Quote There will also be covenants in place which means if the earnings of the empire drop, Ares will be able to enforce and take control of Textor’s share of Crystal Palace.

If this happens, it will mean you have a significant shareholder onboard whose only interest is to recover their principal (ie will force the sale of valuable assets - players!)

Textor is a minority shareholder and therefore cannot force the sale of players without the agreement of at least a further 11% of the shares.

There will also be a shareholders agreement in place which probably covers such eventualities

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Den1923 18 Jan 23 5.06pm
Originally posted by becky He doesn't have 'ownership' in or of CPFC 2010, as it is a Private Limited Company, an entirely & legally separate entity to it's Shareholders. All he can lump together would be his Shareholdings, which I would wonder if they would be of interest to anyone as a 'package' He has a shared ownership with Parish/Blitzer/Harris/Textor in CPFC SELHURST park Ltd, which owns the stadium against WHICH they have Debenture secured on the ground, which held by a Luxembourg registered Company which is a very valuable piece of real estate in SE25?
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Den1923

18 Jan 23 5.06pm

Originally posted by becky

He has a shared ownership with Parish/Blitzer/Harris/Textor in CPFC SELHURST park Ltd, which owns the stadium against WHICH they have Debenture secured on the ground, which held by a Luxembourg registered Company which is a very valuable piece of real estate in SE25?

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