More chance of palace winning the f.a. cup 3 times in a row than them losing now, the CONServatives are so corrupt, and so so bad, only a country full of yes men and cap doffers could keep them in power! Oh , wait....

Indeed we do, but 3 times?
Come on- after this useless rabble anyone, anyone at all would be better- but if you like to call it default then I will take it! Its more about anti CONservative to me-rather than pro Labour!Although they do have some god characters on their team- the Angela speach a case in point- pure genius, delivered almost with perfection, I would love to see her opposite lizzy dpor draws in question time!

That's fair enough but just for me it is an unwavering rejection for both sides at the minute. I don't look to either of them with any promise, belief or enthusiasm really. My politics is a bit all over the place, I'm slightly more 'one thing considered at a time' than allegiance to any side of the fence, individual or party however. I just stick to Roy Walker's advice in saying what I see!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Yes, and lets give them 15 years- to bed in, only fair!

If you think Truss is bad,just wait until we have this clown in charge:

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I’ve never voted Labour in my life but as a father of two and now grandfather I see the struggles of youngsters trying to get on the housing ladder. About time someone tried to help them in some way.

A fair proportion of the older members of my family (over 65) seem to object - but then they can afford to as they’re rattling around in a 3, 4 or 5 bed house, enjoying their final salary pension - achieved in part through the free university education they received. They retired at 65 and took a state pension then. I imagine a healthy slug of Tory party members that voted for the idiot Truss fit this bill.

Those of us in our 50’s (or lower) probably have a money purchase pension, which won’t give us a decent income as it can go up as well as down (so we’re on edge, income wise), we can’t get a state pension until at least 67 (but going up), we enjoyed negative equity in the 90’s, supported our kids through Uni (if they went) and can’t really afford to now help them with housing. So I’m pretty comfortable with this.

BUT - he should also pledge to build a lot more bloody council houses for those (of ALL ages) that need them. So this has to be in conjunction with a proper and extensive council building plan.

However, I reckon there are many better examples of where Starmer and Rayner are a scary prospect in my opinion.

Edited by Helmet46 (01 Oct 2022 8.51am)