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Ketteridge Brighton 25 Aug 22 9.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I don't have any facts however this is my understanding from reading the press. This year it appears that Albanian criminal gangs have realised how easy it is to cross the channel and not get deported so they have piled on and are actively recruiting from their own country.
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Spiderman Horsham 25 Aug 22 9.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
Think this has been misreported , I’m not a cynical man so I ‘ll assume it was a genuine mistake by The home office press team and SKY , I got this from SKY [Link] ‘Government officials believe around 60% of migrants making Channel crossings each day now are Albanian, although figures fluctuate’. There are potential issues, I have just heard about this Albania plan. Personally I think it is a good idea, in theory, but in practice it will be blocked by HR for this reason:
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Ketteridge Brighton 25 Aug 22 10.00pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
How can they be 'legitimate' when they are leaving a 'safe' country (having also crossed several others) where they could have/should have claimed asylum, in accordance with international rules - admittedly with far less in the way of benefits and handouts...
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Midlands Eagle 26 Aug 22 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
It's a shame that they don't join the barristers on strike but obviously they are well paid by somebody
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Matov 26 Aug 22 9.31am | |
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The weird thing about Albanians is that they are, on the whole, incredibly pro-British. Sure, there are a % of criminals but apparently rather good at it. Reliable, keep things nice and quiet, try not to make to much of a mess because they want to make money rather than play at gangsters. You could make an argument that if you are going to tolerate a certain level of organised crime then if your home-grown villains are not up to it (and British criminals do not have a good reputation in the wider global underworld - apparently amongst the most treacherous going. ) then you could do worse than having the Albanians running it. Yes, will all go tits up eventually but such is the Darwinian nature of such enterprises. Of course, this all needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt but if you accept that we need more family types of people in the UK, you can do worse than Albanians. And if they are going to risk a channel crossing then it shows a certain level of chutzpah. Of course, we need to start shipping them off to Rwanda ASAP but I cannot but help admire the tenacity. All the Albanians I know are a pretty solid bunch. Strong work ethic as well. I like them. Edited by Matov (26 Aug 2022 9.32am)
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PalazioVecchio south pole 26 Aug 22 9.40am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
The weird thing about Albanians is that they are, on the whole, incredibly pro-British. Sure, there are a % of criminals but apparently rather good at it. Reliable, keep things nice and quiet, try not to make to much of a mess because they want to make money rather than play at gangsters. You could make an argument that if you are going to tolerate a certain level of organised crime then if your home-grown villains are not up to it (and British criminals do not have a good reputation in the wider global underworld - apparently amongst the most treacherous going. ) then you could do worse than having the Albanians running it. Yes, will all go tits up eventually but such is the Darwinian nature of such enterprises. Of course, this all needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt but if you accept that we need more family types of people in the UK, you can do worse than Albanians. And if they are going to risk a channel crossing then it shows a certain level of chutzpah. Of course, we need to start shipping them off to Rwanda ASAP but I cannot but help admire the tenacity. All the Albanians I know are a pretty solid bunch. Strong work ethic as well. I like them. Edited by Matov (26 Aug 2022 9.32am) So you are saying that "these criminals are more honourable & noble than those criminals" ? I feel sorry for you. Along with whatever idiot started the cult worship of the Krays. Psychopaths are just that, no more.
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Matov 26 Aug 22 10.03am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
So you are saying that "these criminals are more honourable & noble than those criminals" ? I feel sorry for you. Along with whatever idiot started the cult worship of the Krays. Psychopaths are just that, no more.
If I had my way, organised crime would be destroyed but we live in a world in which it seems to be tolerated by those in charge, not least because of the UK's banking system which is effectively the worlds biggest money laundering operation. And as I did stress, my post needed to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. But my wider point remains. I like Albanians. Much in the same way that I have always liked Turks. A civilisation enemy then yes, and I dream of the day Constantinople is liberated, but always got on well with Turkish acquaintances. Hot-tempered in many cases but generous to a fault, big on family and plain good company. My kind of people. Such are the contradictions and complexities of trying to navigate a Dissident Right out-look which is why I aim almost all my ire at the Progressive Left. I f***ing loathe them with, I believe, the ultimate irony being that if the Left just kept their mouths shut, most of us would just learn to rub along with each other. But they wont, and they cheer on the demise of everything I value in life so the battle continues. Such is life.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Aug 22 11.02am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
The weird thing about Albanians is that they are, on the whole, incredibly pro-British. Sure, there are a % of criminals but apparently rather good at it. Reliable, keep things nice and quiet, try not to make to much of a mess because they want to make money rather than play at gangsters. You could make an argument that if you are going to tolerate a certain level of organised crime then if your home-grown villains are not up to it (and British criminals do not have a good reputation in the wider global underworld - apparently amongst the most treacherous going. ) then you could do worse than having the Albanians running it. Yes, will all go tits up eventually but such is the Darwinian nature of such enterprises. Of course, this all needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt but if you accept that we need more family types of people in the UK, you can do worse than Albanians. And if they are going to risk a channel crossing then it shows a certain level of chutzpah. Of course, we need to start shipping them off to Rwanda ASAP but I cannot but help admire the tenacity. All the Albanians I know are a pretty solid bunch. Strong work ethic as well. I like them. Edited by Matov (26 Aug 2022 9.32am) My experience of many Albanians that they are “up to all sorts” but, of course, they are not alone there. What really struck me was how they had total respect for their elders. Most elderly Albanians do not speak English and when they needed to be interviewed there was many younger ones willing to help. That help then extended to assisting them with baggage etc.
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