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est1905 22 Apr 22 3.30pm
Originally posted by SwordFish What a load of absolute tosh everyone is talking , without the HF we would be considered boring atmosphere same as Brighton, no big displays or constant singing at Wembley etc , and if you people can’t deal with a few cross words on a train football isn’t for you What has intimidating a child on a train got to do with decent football club support? I'm all ears on this one. Clearly you are one of the idiots that thinks as long as clueless TV pundits are praising Palace's atmosphere the HF can just go through life doing whatever they want. For the record, much as I adore my club and the atmosphere, for me the HF add little. You obviously weren't there before the HF started. We had plenty of rip roaring atmospheres on a regular basis before they arrived. They wont be around for ever, trust me there will be plenty of good atmosphere in the stands long after they are gone. To suggest our support is nothing without the HF is pathetic as well as disrespectful to the thousands of Palace fans that outnumber the HF 30 to 1! Secondly, sorry to disappoint you but hating Brighton is fine. I do too. pretending they have no atmosphere at the AMEX to make a point is frankly naive as well as ill informed. Tosh is a great word. Good description of what YOU spout
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est1905

22 Apr 22 3.30pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

What a load of absolute tosh everyone is talking , without the HF we would be considered boring atmosphere same as Brighton, no big displays or constant singing at Wembley etc , and if you people can’t deal with a few cross words on a train football isn’t for you

What has intimidating a child on a train got to do with decent football club support? I'm all ears on this one. Clearly you are one of the idiots that thinks as long as clueless TV pundits are praising Palace's atmosphere the HF can just go through life doing whatever they want.
For the record, much as I adore my club and the atmosphere, for me the HF add little. You obviously weren't there before the HF started. We had plenty of rip roaring atmospheres on a regular basis before they arrived. They wont be around for ever, trust me there will be plenty of good atmosphere in the stands long after they are gone. To suggest our support is nothing without the HF is pathetic as well as disrespectful to the thousands of Palace fans that outnumber the HF 30 to 1!
Secondly, sorry to disappoint you but hating Brighton is fine. I do too. pretending they have no atmosphere at the AMEX to make a point is frankly naive as well as ill informed.
Tosh is a great word. Good description of what YOU spout

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est1905 22 Apr 22 3.32pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Well, your point was about how you are more charitable than the HF, not me. But if you don’t want to share we shall all assume you are doing far more than the HFs food bank initiative. You go ahead and assume what you like. You seem to anyway.
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est1905

22 Apr 22 3.32pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, your point was about how you are more charitable than the HF, not me.

But if you don’t want to share we shall all assume you are doing far more than the HFs food bank initiative.

You go ahead and assume what you like. You seem to anyway.

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Mapletree Croydon 22 Apr 22 4.12pm
Originally posted by est1905 You go ahead and assume what you like. You seem to anyway. That is very kind of you.
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Mapletree

Croydon 22 Apr 22 4.12pm

Originally posted by est1905

You go ahead and assume what you like. You seem to anyway.

That is very kind of you.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Apr 22 4.59pm
Originally posted by est1905 What has intimidating a child on a train got to do with decent football club support? I'm all ears on this one. Clearly you are one of the idiots that thinks as long as clueless TV pundits are praising Palace's atmosphere the HF can just go through life doing whatever they want. For the record, much as I adore my club and the atmosphere, for me the HF add little. You obviously weren't there before the HF started. We had plenty of rip roaring atmospheres on a regular basis before they arrived. They wont be around for ever, trust me there will be plenty of good atmosphere in the stands long after they are gone. To suggest our support is nothing without the HF is pathetic as well as disrespectful to the thousands of Palace fans that outnumber the HF 30 to 1! Secondly, sorry to disappoint you but hating Brighton is fine. I do too. pretending they have no atmosphere at the AMEX to make a point is frankly naive as well as ill informed. Tosh is a great word. Good description of what YOU spout I agree with your first point on cowardly intimidation, but the atmosphere at Selhurst was poor from the Holmesdale stand being built onwards. Clubs didn’t know or think about this and everyone got spread everywhere. Then you get the same people in the same seats for decades. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Apr 22 4.59pm

Originally posted by est1905

I agree with your first point on cowardly intimidation, but the atmosphere at Selhurst was poor from the Holmesdale stand being built onwards. Clubs didn’t know or think about this and everyone got spread everywhere. Then you get the same people in the same seats for decades.

COYP

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martin2412 Living The Dream 22 Apr 22 10.19pm
Originally posted by SnapperKain Well if 2000 people donated towards that, they must have each put in about 20p.
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martin2412

Living The Dream 22 Apr 22 10.19pm

Originally posted by SnapperKain

Well if 2000 people donated towards that, they must have each put in about 20p.

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The groover Danbury 29 Apr 22 3.51pm
Originally posted by martin2412 Well if 2000 people donated towards that, they must have each put in about 20p. Upper tier part of the display was stopped by the Stewards and Wembley. They even took balloons off of little kids. Disgraceful.
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The groover

Danbury 29 Apr 22 3.51pm

Originally posted by martin2412

Well if 2000 people donated towards that, they must have each put in about 20p.

Upper tier part of the display was stopped by the Stewards and Wembley. They even took balloons off of little kids. Disgraceful.

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gazNgiz 02 May 22 10.02pm
Originally posted by The groover Upper tier part of the display was stopped by the Stewards and Wembley. They even took balloons off of little kids. Disgraceful. Please don’t! There was no upper tier display from the hf. There was a letter that they asked there mum to write which made them look like a bunch of muppets. After they realised that, they then tried to start something in the upper tier to save face, via balloons. Even though a lot of Palace fans would’ve done this anyway. HF trying to take control of the balloon situation is just another example of how ridiculous they can be, and this also alerted officials to the fact there would be sh!t loads of balloons. Well done boys! Maybe the hf should just do what they do, simple. There really is no need for all this look at us sh!te. Oh look at us, look what we’re going to do, aren’t we great! Just do it, and if it works great! It’s like them t***s who give something to the homeless, but then get a photo of them doing it to show everyone just how great they are. It’s getting beyond plastic. I'm a little bit backwards
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gazNgiz

02 May 22 10.02pm

Originally posted by The groover

Upper tier part of the display was stopped by the Stewards and Wembley. They even took balloons off of little kids. Disgraceful.

Please don’t! There was no upper tier display from the hf. There was a letter that they asked there mum to write which made them look like a bunch of muppets. After they realised that, they then tried to start something in the upper tier to save face, via balloons. Even though a lot of Palace fans would’ve done this anyway.
HF trying to take control of the balloon situation is just another example of how ridiculous they can be, and this also alerted officials to the fact there would be sh!t loads of balloons. Well done boys!

Maybe the hf should just do what they do, simple. There really is no need for all this look at us sh!te. Oh look at us, look what we’re going to do, aren’t we great! Just do it, and if it works great!

It’s like them t***s who give something to the homeless, but then get a photo of them doing it to show everyone just how great they are.

It’s getting beyond plastic.

I'm a little bit backwards

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Mapletree Croydon 02 May 22 11.23pm
Originally posted by gazNgiz Please don’t! There was no upper tier display from the hf. There was a letter that they asked there mum to write which made them look like a bunch of muppets. After they realised that, they then tried to start something in the upper tier to save face, via balloons. Even though a lot of Palace fans would’ve done this anyway. HF trying to take control of the balloon situation is just another example of how ridiculous they can be, and this also alerted officials to the fact there would be sh!t loads of balloons. Well done boys! Maybe the hf should just do what they do, simple. There really is no need for all this look at us sh!te. Oh look at us, look what we’re going to do, aren’t we great! Just do it, and if it works great! It’s like them t***s who give something to the homeless, but then get a photo of them doing it to show everyone just how great they are. It’s getting beyond plastic. Balanced as ever I see The HF raises funds and food for a food bank by the way, pretty successfully.
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Mapletree

Croydon 02 May 22 11.23pm

Originally posted by gazNgiz

It’s like them t***s who give something to the homeless, but then get a photo of them doing it to show everyone just how great they are.

It’s getting beyond plastic.

Balanced as ever I see

The HF raises funds and food for a food bank by the way, pretty successfully.

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est1905 04 May 22 5.15pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Balanced as ever I see The HF raises funds and food for a food bank by the way, pretty successfully. So what Maple syrup? That is a decent gesture but nothing special in comparison to what many many ordinary people (that dont brag about it) up and down the country do every day. You really try to big them up all the time dont you. I'm kind of embarrassed on your behalf how much of an unashamed hero worshipper of the HF you are.
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est1905

04 May 22 5.15pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Balanced as ever I see

The HF raises funds and food for a food bank by the way, pretty successfully.

So what Maple syrup? That is a decent gesture but nothing special in comparison to what many many ordinary people (that dont brag about it) up and down the country do every day.
You really try to big them up all the time dont you. I'm kind of embarrassed on your behalf how much of an unashamed hero worshipper of the HF you are.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 05 May 22 1.00pm
Originally posted by est1905 What has intimidating a child on a train got to do with decent football club support? I'm all ears on this one. Clearly you are one of the idiots that thinks as long as clueless TV pundits are praising Palace's atmosphere the HF can just go through life doing whatever they want. For the record, much as I adore my club and the atmosphere, for me the HF add little. You obviously weren't there before the HF started. We had plenty of rip roaring atmospheres on a regular basis before they arrived. They wont be around for ever, trust me there will be plenty of good atmosphere in the stands long after they are gone. To suggest our support is nothing without the HF is pathetic as well as disrespectful to the thousands of Palace fans that outnumber the HF 30 to 1! Secondly, sorry to disappoint you but hating Brighton is fine. I do too. pretending they have no atmosphere at the AMEX to make a point is frankly naive as well as ill informed. Tosh is a great word. Good description of what YOU spout Sorry, but this is bollocks. The atmosphere was crap like all the other grounds. They've been going since 2005 so deserve more credit than 'they will not be around for ever' - the fact of the matter is that they are growing in size so will probably be around for a long time. I expect when safe standing eventually gets introduced in the Holmesdale Lower/new stand built, they will double as a lot of the younger crowd enjoy the noise and want to be part of it, whilst many of the older crowd will move to the new stand for better facilities. With regards to your 30:1 ratio, the 1 out sing the 30 and are the ones that get the atmosphere going. When Vieira praises our fans for getting behind the team and making a difference, I very much doubt it's aimed at the majority who sit in silence for 90 mins. You might think that's disrespectful but it's the truth - this is not a criticism of Palace fans, but the sad reality that 90% Premier League stadiums are sterile, and we'd be no different if it wasn't for the HF. Intimidating a child on the train is terrible and unacceptable, but you're tarnishing the whole group because of the action of one of them (or maybe a small group). There are also many other morons who go to Palace who are not part of the HF. I was told the other day that they stayed at Covent Garden before the semi final to clear up all the mess left by the Palace fans. They do a lot for local charity which is great - who cares if they bang the drum about it, it probably helps get more donations (I don't think they do by the way, I only know from reading it on here). Yes, they have a few idiots amongst them, but that's a general reflection of society - we have a few on here too. The good they do far outweighs the bad and they a real asset to our club. They have gradually built a relationship with Parish and the club through hard work, over and above commitment and intelligent negotiation to get the privileged treatment. I personally have no problem with that. Keep up great work.
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Goal Machine

The Cronx 05 May 22 1.00pm

Originally posted by est1905

What has intimidating a child on a train got to do with decent football club support? I'm all ears on this one. Clearly you are one of the idiots that thinks as long as clueless TV pundits are praising Palace's atmosphere the HF can just go through life doing whatever they want.
For the record, much as I adore my club and the atmosphere, for me the HF add little. You obviously weren't there before the HF started. We had plenty of rip roaring atmospheres on a regular basis before they arrived. They wont be around for ever, trust me there will be plenty of good atmosphere in the stands long after they are gone. To suggest our support is nothing without the HF is pathetic as well as disrespectful to the thousands of Palace fans that outnumber the HF 30 to 1!
Secondly, sorry to disappoint you but hating Brighton is fine. I do too. pretending they have no atmosphere at the AMEX to make a point is frankly naive as well as ill informed.
Tosh is a great word. Good description of what YOU spout

Sorry, but this is bollocks. The atmosphere was crap like all the other grounds. They've been going since 2005 so deserve more credit than 'they will not be around for ever' - the fact of the matter is that they are growing in size so will probably be around for a long time. I expect when safe standing eventually gets introduced in the Holmesdale Lower/new stand built, they will double as a lot of the younger crowd enjoy the noise and want to be part of it, whilst many of the older crowd will move to the new stand for better facilities.

With regards to your 30:1 ratio, the 1 out sing the 30 and are the ones that get the atmosphere going. When Vieira praises our fans for getting behind the team and making a difference, I very much doubt it's aimed at the majority who sit in silence for 90 mins. You might think that's disrespectful but it's the truth - this is not a criticism of Palace fans, but the sad reality that 90% Premier League stadiums are sterile, and we'd be no different if it wasn't for the HF.

Intimidating a child on the train is terrible and unacceptable, but you're tarnishing the whole group because of the action of one of them (or maybe a small group). There are also many other morons who go to Palace who are not part of the HF.

I was told the other day that they stayed at Covent Garden before the semi final to clear up all the mess left by the Palace fans. They do a lot for local charity which is great - who cares if they bang the drum about it, it probably helps get more donations (I don't think they do by the way, I only know from reading it on here). Yes, they have a few idiots amongst them, but that's a general reflection of society - we have a few on here too. The good they do far outweighs the bad and they a real asset to our club.

They have gradually built a relationship with Parish and the club through hard work, over and above commitment and intelligent negotiation to get the privileged treatment. I personally have no problem with that. Keep up great work.

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