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BlueJay Flag UK 08 Mar 22 4.53pm

Originally posted by cb1969

Never rated them, just so full of themselves.

Yes, they're all the same. Very self absorbed.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Mar 22 6.34pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, they're all the same. Very self absorbed.

And the surprise wears off after the first or second one.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 08 Mar 22 6.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

And the surprise wears off after the first or second one.

That's an adequate description of my jokes, yes .

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 Mar 22 7.10pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Green and renewable energy will become even more of a top priority of EU nations as result of this conflict. Nations benefit from become self sufficient (via a broad approach) rather than helpless in the face of global events or being held to ransom by regimes like Russia (who can and may send oil prices up very significantly on a whim).

It was always rather foolish and backward that we didn't embrace the inevitable anyway, and relied on old, limited and outdated technologies and energy sources.


Unfortunately, lack of long-term vision/planning is a result of democracies 4 or 5 year election cycle.

I recall doing a small project as part of a Degree course in 1990 on UK energy supply and how it should develop. The UK, at that time, was capable of supplying up to 30% of its electrical supply through the use of (off-shore) wind farms. Solar power was more variable and lacked consistency. The best projected plan was to see more efficient electrical products utilised to reduce demand, with a gradual change to an increased renewable supply facilitated by the use of nuclear power stations.
So students could see this coming 30 years ago. The human race lost its foresight for the sake of short-term gains.

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BlueJay Flag UK 08 Mar 22 7.27pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


Unfortunately, lack of long-term vision/planning is a result of democracies 4 or 5 year election cycle.

I recall doing a small project as part of a Degree course in 1990 on UK energy supply and how it should develop. The UK, at that time, was capable of supplying up to 30% of its electrical supply through the use of (off-shore) wind farms. Solar power was more variable and lacked consistency. The best projected plan was to see more efficient electrical products utilised to reduce demand, with a gradual change to an increased renewable supply facilitated by the use of nuclear power stations.
So students could see this coming 30 years ago. The human race lost its foresight for the sake of short-term gains.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (08 Mar 2022 7.17pm)

Yes, it really is a flaw with the system and its accompanying self serving politicians. Years of inaction and a few promises around election time to shore up the votes is largely all we ever get. Few long term projects that are useful for society ever come to fruition. Even those that do are botched or 'contracts for mates' stuff with ballooning costs that is not their problem by the time they're out of power.

It's a shame there aren't more agreed national long term projects and the like that are somewhat detached from parties, terms and the to and fro of politics.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Mar 22 8.30pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, it really is a flaw with the system and its accompanying self serving politicians. Years of inaction and a few promises around election time to shore up the votes is largely all we ever get. Few long term projects that are useful for society ever come to fruition. Even those that do are botched or 'contracts for mates' stuff with ballooning costs that is not their problem by the time they're out of power.

It's a shame there aren't more agreed national long term projects and the like that are somewhat detached from parties, terms and the to and fro of politics.

HS2 !

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 08 Mar 22 8.35pm

Originally posted by cryrst

HS2 !

Yes, that's a good example though really, in that the costs spiral so mindbogglingly, that there's clearly plenty of people quids in and laughing, and none of them are the average tax payer..

But in general at least one infrastructure is in place it is used and useful. It's a significant flaw in party politics that they think in windows is say 2,3,4 years, because almost anything of value or worth to society extends way beyond that.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Mar 22 8.49pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, that's a good example though really, in that the costs spiral so mindbogglingly, that there's clearly plenty of people quids in and laughing, and none of them are the average tax payer..

But in general at least one infrastructure is in place it is used and useful. It's a significant flaw in party politics that they think in windows is say 2,3,4 years, because almost anything of value or worth to society extends way beyond that.

People always make more than others though. It's how the whole world has worked since beans were the currency. We all want more and that's natural. Ironically London and other cities cycle lanes and systems are infastructure that will last. A proper PITA but fits the descriptor

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 09 Mar 22 1.31am

Originally posted by cryrst

People always make more than others though. It's how the whole world has worked since beans were the currency. We all want more and that's natural. Ironically London and other cities cycle lanes and systems are infastructure that will last. A proper PITA but fits the descriptor

Certainly, I agree to a point. Money makes the world go round, as they say! It all depends how far its taken really, as we need enough checks and balances to ensure we don't approach Russia levels of corruption and wealth inequality.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Mar 22 7.04am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Much of the 'act with one voice' actions from western corporations have punished the Russian people....They aren't really punishing the Russian government. We can laugh at p***.ub banning Russians from access...some might even say it's indirectly helping them but when organisations refuse their services and products from the ordinary Russians they are effectively declaring a kind of war on them......Because those mainly affected are them not their government.

I've pointed out previously that a corporate world that doesn't differ in actions from government is no different to a communist/fascist one....as in a communist state the corporations are nationalised and become government bodies and in a fascist state corporations still exist but are not allowed to politically differ from the state.

People need to remember that Russia isn't a democracy, its media is completely controlled and protest and resistance is presecuted. Yes, I can point out how the west is in many ways similar and progressing much along the same lines, but it's a question of scale and severity that differs.

When corporations are effectively punishing the Russian people over their state's actions.....when in reality they are powerless all this achieves is to convince them that we are their enemy and hate them. It just repeats the same message they receive from their government. It's counter productive in every way.

What gets me is that any layman can work this out yet these actions are supposedly undertaken and decided upon by the most successful people in society.

Here is a link to commentary on this....it comes at it from the gaming corporate world but it also overlaps in general on this.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Mar 2022 7.04am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Mar 22 7.21am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Tucker Carlson seems to be one of the few in the western media in America...republican or democrat, who seems to actually care about the economic harms about to be inflicted by elites upon their own peoples.

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Where is the focus upon peace?

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Mar 2022 7.23am)

 


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