If your correct then the one against us for handball was the same, so it evens itself out!

As summed up on MotD VAR decisions more interesting than all of the on field action. We seem to be struggling up top at the moment unlike similar teams to us such as Southampton and the Weed. They both seemed to be moving the ball much quicker than us yesterday. PV hinted at this after the match so let's hope for an improvement, otherwise I cannot see us above 15th come the end of the season. COYP !!

Edited by Booted Eagle (13 Feb 2022 11.14am)

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Agree with much of this.
We appear to wish to play with a Man City type of 433 with one holding midfield player (they use Rodri or Fernandinho) and use a possession based game to create openings for a fluid forward line.
This is an admirable objective but we don’t at the moment have the quality of the player or play at the requisite pace to make it work.
Their system also requires the player to sacrifice himself for the team and play the right pass rather than have the eye catching showboating moment.
Players like Mcarthur and Hughes play early first time passes and Olise clearly has the talent to play the right weight of pass to suit this method.
I’m not sure this system suits the like of Zaha, Schlupp and Ayew though, and then there are the likes of Kouyate and Ward who are probably not capable of playing this way.
The conundrum is whether to change the system to suit the players we have, or to get players to suit the system.
We have started the process with the purchase of ball playing centre backs, but it would surely prove too expensive to buy midfielders and forwards to fit this template as well.
I just hope we don’t get caught between the two as we appear to be at the moment I.e lots of possession without pace or purpose and very poor decision making in the final third.

From the general thrust of the comments and relating to how the style of play has "developed" as the season has worn on, it seems to me that we look closer to a Roy team than the team that started with such enthusiasm. I never thought I would say such a thing, but there it is, currently we have no vitality or energy going forward and pass from side to side more for the sake of it than creating something. We've become entirely predictable.
I really was hoping for some continuing sign of progression but at the moment we seem to be going backwards, or side to side.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (13 Feb 2022 11.34am)

Not sure about the ethics of it, but I thought it was a very nice gesture for Brentford to offer to pay half of Ayew’s wages this week after his contributions in the game! 🤔

It Seems to me it's perfectly normal .. We started the season playing completely differently to what we're used To - and what our opposition are used to.. It's only natural that we go though a slightly more laboured period where we start to run out of ideas and the opposition has begun to work out how to stop us. As a group of players we haven't been playing this way for very long, so are learning what we need to do to get out of it. These things take experience and guidance. Hopefully PV and his team can deliver this.

From here we can either change tack slightly to keep us and the oppo on their toes, or do what we are doing more effectively - which requires faster transitions between the defence and attack - as a team and not as a bunch of individuals.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"