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 ambrose7  Croydon 23 Jan 22 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Bump. Pack it in. Particularly if it's playing to the opposition's strengths as it did today. Shocking tactics but we still ultimately had the chances to win. What's the alternative? Pump it long to Van Dijk to control, give to Henderson and repeat?
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 24 Jan 22 9.53am |
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Originally posted by iheartcpfc
There is literally no point in lumping it against Liverpool, their CBs and midfield clean up everything Exactly this. Zero point. They press so high up (TAA was pressing onto Mitchell) that if we can evade the press we can really go at them, particularly in the wide areas. Robertson rarely had any help against Olise. The players are showing bravery, and trust in their ability. I wish some of the fans could show a little more bravery too
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| silvertop Portishead 24 Jan 22 9.57am |
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We are not very good at it. Now. Saw how Chelsea did it in the next game and they converted defence to attack in seconds. Meanwhile, we almost got pressed back into our own goal or else surrendered possession. I am really hoping they keep practicing as, if we can reach the qualities of Chelsea (why not?), we will unleash our attack; and they are pretty good.
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| monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 24 Jan 22 10.20am |
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I shouted out yesterday in frustration at Guehi and Anderson titting about with it up the Whitehorse, what happened? We kept hold of possession and went on to score Edited by monkey (24 Jan 2022 8.57pm)
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Jan 22 11.08am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Exactly this. Zero point. They press so high up (TAA was pressing onto Mitchell) that if we can evade the press we can really go at them, particularly in the wide areas. Robertson rarely had any help against Olise. The players are showing bravery, and trust in their ability. I wish some of the fans could show a little more bravery too
Finally, we are currently making the transition with some players for whom the new style of play doesn't come easy. Assuming we survive this season (and we should) and PV remains, the summer 2022 window should enable us to bring in 2 or 3 more players who are comfortable playing this style.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Jan 22 11.15am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
We are not very good at it. Now. Saw how Chelsea did it in the next game and they converted defence to attack in seconds. Meanwhile, we almost got pressed back into our own goal or else surrendered possession. I am really hoping they keep practicing as, if we can reach the qualities of Chelsea (why not?), we will unleash our attack; and they are pretty good. About £500m of investment, mainly. We have to take the good with the bad with this stuff; we don't get goals like we got against Brighton without a few failed attempts on the way. Given the number of chances we created yesterday against one of the best defences in the league, I find it hard to criticise the approach..
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 24 Jan 22 11.19am |
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In the first half of most matches the wide players start very narrow, which changes in the second half, its much easier to pass out if the wide players are on their lines when we have possession, much more space
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 24 Jan 22 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
What's the alternative? Pump it long to Van Dijk to control, give to Henderson and repeat? We are allowed to challenge and be aggressive on the second ball. Mateta and Benteke are both tall. I think we've become too predictable. Nothing wrong with playing out but it needs to mixed up a bit. If you look at the last four games we've been behind at the break in three of them having spent most of the first half unsuccessfully trying to play through the opposition press. Two of those games have effectively been lost at that point. The one where we weren't behind against Brighton we'd barely left our half. They'd missed a pen and had a goal chalked off. Our form over the last eleven games isn't great and IMO we've become too predictable for the opposition. Ward in particular has looked really exposed.
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| palace99 New Mills 26 Jan 22 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
We are allowed to challenge and be aggressive on the second ball. Mateta and Benteke are both tall. I think we've become too predictable. Nothing wrong with playing out but it needs to mixed up a bit. If you look at the last four games we've been behind at the break in three of them having spent most of the first half unsuccessfully trying to play through the opposition press. Two of those games have effectively been lost at that point. The one where we weren't behind against Brighton we'd barely left our half. They'd missed a pen and had a goal chalked off. Our form over the last eleven games isn't great and IMO we've become too predictable for the opposition. Ward in particular has looked really exposed. good post. Man U are also particularly poor at playing out from the back and Arsenal aren't much better. I noticed a Liverpool player effectively marked our keeper at times so it was clearly a plan. I have no issue with playing out from the back but there is a time and place. Also we need the midfield to provide an out ball. With Jeff and Conor being 2 of the 3 that was never going to happen. The teams who play this best usually have 2 defensive mids Edited by palace99 (26 Jan 2022 5.11pm)
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| trapperjohn Horsham 26 Jan 22 6.03pm |
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I think it is the inflexible approach that is most frustrating and there are times when it is clearly dangerous but they still do it.
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| Casual Orpington 26 Jan 22 7.01pm |
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It’s too slow. Both keepers seem to wait until the other team are set and in position .then roll it to Anderson.
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