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Matov 17 Feb 22 10.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Notably Napoleon and Hitler. We've just managed to get one foot out of the shower....don't tell me you want us to have a bath! If we had voted Remain then I would have been urging us to join the Euro and fully embrace the entire project. Because what was the point of us being in the EU otherwise? One of the reasons I was so in favour of the referendum was that our position of only having one foot in made less and less sense. We either had to be on the out or inside fully. The issue had to be settled. And it was. But a vote for Remain had to mean we truly embraced the entire EU project.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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Teddy Eagle 17 Feb 22 10.44pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Oh for sure, they even named it Lexit at one point, as in the left wing case for Brexit. I just mean the remain campaign spent so little time on the benefits of membership and the positive cases for remain and focused all their efforts on big scary predictions if we were to leave. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (17 Feb 2022 5.39pm) So what caused the change between Europe being the Tory-Pro, Labour-anti situation which had existed for decades?
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Matov 18 Feb 22 7.21am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So what caused the change between Europe being the Tory-Pro, Labour-anti situation which had existed for decades?
In many ways, Lexit made far more sense than the Tories championing our departure from the EU and a majority of Tory MP's were essentially Remain all the time, helped in great measure by the level of lobbying/corruption they were open to from big business who hate Brexit with a passion.
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Teddy Eagle 18 Feb 22 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
In many ways, Lexit made far more sense than the Tories championing our departure from the EU and a majority of Tory MP's were essentially Remain all the time, helped in great measure by the level of lobbying/corruption they were open to from big business who hate Brexit with a passion. Ah, yes. Onan the Barbarian - he was a busy fellow.
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Eaglecoops CR3 18 Feb 22 10.58am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Let's just dispose of the blah blah and get to the crux of the ssue. There needs to be some pushback and now. I'm tired of hearing self appointed speakers for minorities telling us that they are underrepresented when the opposite is clearly true in many instances.
Blunt but true and ultimately prophetic of the country which has changed beyond recognition from the one I was born into.
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