I can't criticise the Irish we have plenty of wanted people living in the UK with impunity.

One more point

Funnily enough, we usually get the ones wanted by the UK. Has happened several times recently. The UK tips us off. Like Britain, we have an issue with the French court system, as we have basically Common Law, overlaid with precedence and the innocent until proven guilty, plus the Constitution and then the EU Court. When France wants people the precedence has been set that we can't just blindly accept French Court rulings. The French system has no jury, different standards of evidence and no presumption of innocence. That was basically the crux of the case, plus he played up about disability. Maybe he's gone, maybe someone's watching? I wouldn't hold my breath.
Unfortunately,Ireland really not on the cutting edge of policing. Woefully under resourced.

Red and Blue Army!

Interestingly I stated in my last message to you that life will never me some kind of simplistic 'my white brother' reality, nor will it be a 'coke advert' of all cultures hand in hand (something you've repeated above as if you're telling me something I didn't just say). I also stated that I'm no fan of mass immigration, indeed I voted for Brexit which is somewhat revealing of that.

If anything, events like this of a white Danish man who was known to have mental health problems and who recently converted to Islam go to show what a confusing and connected world of factors and contradictions we live in. It's clearly impossible to strip away an online indoctrination component due to both the self evident realities of it and the basics of what is already known about how the killer conducted himself.

In any case, whether Islamic, far right or whatever, online exposure, desensitisation and normalisation to circles that are either extreme, or often fringe and sitting uncomfortably close to those looking to visit harm upon others, is unnervingly common and has consequences for good people in real life. It's not the full picture though of course, I agree. Mass immigration and the like are certainly occurrences that don't solely bring with them some kind of untroubled basket of cash. It may economically fit the bill for the government with regard for cheap labour, but there is no thought as to the impact on communities, nor really a voice (outside of the Brexit vote) for them to have a say. A mental detachment from society can certainly on occasion lead people to worrying places (especially when religion, or other strident, uncompromising belief systems are part of the mix). That can be true of anyone, but certainly is a factor here too. It's government all over though to not think beyond £££, and I can't see it changing because ordinary people aren't the voices they're listening to. If you're not rich, or a corporation your interests are not even secondary. It's the way of the world.

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Yes it's a tricky one no doubt. Everyone seeking influence or $$ has become better at using and exploiting the Internet, so it's gone from some kind of initial geeks paradise, to brave new world, to fairground hall of mirrors surrounded by dark alleys. The idea of an unregulated Internet and one controlled by the government have both become disturbing outcomes.

Social media networks are key to a sensible outcome but feel that their bottom line will always win, and that human nature (the desire for a 'quick fix' of argument or a video thats a little more OTT than the previous one) is catered to by the algorithms rather than better nature. These can certainly warp peoples reward centres and reality, and it's possible that changes that highlight commonality if brought in too fast would drive people to other platforms.

As such it may be down to advancements in Internet speeds and technologies that feed into how people interact. The current often angry faceless disconnect in online communications would likely change if interactions became more aligned with how people converse in real life. I can't imagine many of the conversations on here would pan out as they do if people were, say at a virtual bar together. I'm aware these technologies are already here in a sense but they're not really the norm or in a format that is 'real life' or rewarding enough to take centre stage.

will the next Coca-Cola advert show Saudi royalty singing and holding hands with LGBTQ gender-fluid types ?

nothing would surprise me anymore.

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