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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Apr 21 9.07pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC It’s not a domestic passport though is it It will be left to the discretion of pubs and other commercial enterprises as to what practices they want to employ. Some of the bigger groups have already said they have no interest in such a policy. As mentioned it’s large scale gatherings that in the short term will need to have something in place as they are ripe petri dishes for break outs. And yes, come late summer most of this will be irrelevant anyway as most people will have us the jabs. It’s a temporary measure to get the economy going and moving back towards normality - again, no one is explaining to me what the alternative is - it’s either proof of vaccination at some large scale events, and for international travel, or a lot of those industries die on their arse. I still don't see the point when huge numbers of us have been vaccinated. What I get is social distancing and reduce capacity on at football grounds, concerts, clubs dining etc. That is just common sense. One more point
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Beckenham 03 Apr 21 9.07pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

It’s not a domestic passport though is it

It will be left to the discretion of pubs and other commercial enterprises as to what practices they want to employ. Some of the bigger groups have already said they have no interest in such a policy. As mentioned it’s large scale gatherings that in the short term will need to have something in place as they are ripe petri dishes for break outs.

And yes, come late summer most of this will be irrelevant anyway as most people will have us the jabs. It’s a temporary measure to get the economy going and moving back towards normality - again, no one is explaining to me what the alternative is - it’s either proof of vaccination at some large scale events, and for international travel, or a lot of those industries die on their arse.

I still don't see the point when huge numbers of us have been vaccinated.

What I get is social distancing and reduce capacity on at football grounds, concerts, clubs dining etc. That is just common sense.

One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 21 9.57pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I still don't see the point when huge numbers of us have been vaccinated. What I get is social distancing and reduce capacity on at football grounds, concerts, clubs dining etc. That is just common sense. Where's the common sense in denying businesses income at a time when they desperately need as much as possible when a viable alternative is available? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 21 9.57pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I still don't see the point when huge numbers of us have been vaccinated.

What I get is social distancing and reduce capacity on at football grounds, concerts, clubs dining etc. That is just common sense.

Where's the common sense in denying businesses income at a time when they desperately need as much as possible when a viable alternative is available?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 03 Apr 21 10.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Where's the common sense in denying businesses income at a time when they desperately need as much as possible when a viable alternative is available? But how do these businesses prove to you that their staff have been vaccinated? Bearing in mind a lot of service staff are younger people they’ll still be waiting.
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03 Apr 21 10.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Where's the common sense in denying businesses income at a time when they desperately need as much as possible when a viable alternative is available?

But how do these businesses prove to you that their staff have been vaccinated? Bearing in mind a lot of service staff are younger people they’ll still be waiting.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 21 10.57pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle But how do these businesses prove to you that their staff have been vaccinated? Bearing in mind a lot of service staff are younger people they’ll still be waiting. You mean in pubs I suppose? They cannot prove what isn't possible and I am not in a position to know how they will be asked to provide reassurance, but I imagine they will be required to have regular testing alongside the kind of restrictions we saw last year like gloves and masks. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 21 10.57pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But how do these businesses prove to you that their staff have been vaccinated? Bearing in mind a lot of service staff are younger people they’ll still be waiting.

You mean in pubs I suppose? They cannot prove what isn't possible and I am not in a position to know how they will be asked to provide reassurance, but I imagine they will be required to have regular testing alongside the kind of restrictions we saw last year like gloves and masks.

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Teddy Eagle 03 Apr 21 11.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You mean in pubs I suppose? They cannot prove what isn't possible and I am not in a position to know how they will be asked to provide reassurance, but I imagine they will be required to have regular testing alongside the kind of restrictions we saw last year like gloves and masks. Not just pubs; cafes, restaurants, shops too, possibly. Doesn’t affect me but would this proof be required before allowing people on a tube train?
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03 Apr 21 11.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not just pubs; cafes, restaurants, shops too, possibly.
Doesn’t affect me but would this proof be required before allowing people on a tube train?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 21 11.14am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Not just pubs; cafes, restaurants, shops too, possibly. Doesn’t affect me but would this proof be required before allowing people on a tube train? My guess is that it would be down to the businesses to decide what they require and not something to be made mandatory by government. Then customers would have the freedom to decide which places they use, and how they do so. I see any move along these lines only as a tool to increase confidence to enable a faster economic recovery. People who need to use the tube can do so now, but we cannot yet attend sporting events or go to the pub. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 21 11.14am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not just pubs; cafes, restaurants, shops too, possibly.
Doesn’t affect me but would this proof be required before allowing people on a tube train?

My guess is that it would be down to the businesses to decide what they require and not something to be made mandatory by government. Then customers would have the freedom to decide which places they use, and how they do so.

I see any move along these lines only as a tool to increase confidence to enable a faster economic recovery. People who need to use the tube can do so now, but we cannot yet attend sporting events or go to the pub.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 04 Apr 21 1.23pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle My guess is that it would be down to the businesses to decide what they require and not something to be made mandatory by government. Then customers would have the freedom to decide which places they use, and how they do so. I see any move along these lines only as a tool to increase confidence to enable a faster economic recovery. People who need to use the tube can do so now, but we cannot yet attend sporting events or go to the pub. It looks as though we’ll find out a bit more tomorrow. Seems a bit contradictory though that people can be packed into a tube train but might have to prove their vaccination status to get into a pub; particularly since last summer pubs took all the precautions required to allow social distancing.
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Teddy Eagle

04 Apr 21 1.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It looks as though we’ll find out a bit more tomorrow.
Seems a bit contradictory though that people can be packed into a tube train but might have to prove their vaccination status to get into a pub; particularly since last summer pubs took all the precautions required to allow social distancing.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 21 1.54pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It looks as though we’ll find out a bit more tomorrow. Seems a bit contradictory though that people can be packed into a tube train but might have to prove their vaccination status to get into a pub; particularly since last summer pubs took all the precautions required to allow social distancing. Maybe the pubs, especially the bigger ones, will have an area where only the vaccinated can sit and receive table service, whilst the bar area and other areas will be free of restrictions. Then it will be for people to decide what they want. I think this is all about building confidence and not at all about control. Sporting venues may do much the same, although that might be complicated by season ticket considerations. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 21 1.54pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Maybe the pubs, especially the bigger ones, will have an area where only the vaccinated can sit and receive table service, whilst the bar area and other areas will be free of restrictions. Then it will be for people to decide what they want. I think this is all about building confidence and not at all about control. Sporting venues may do much the same, although that might be complicated by season ticket considerations.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 04 Apr 21 2.26pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Maybe the pubs, especially the bigger ones, will have an area where only the vaccinated can sit and receive table service, whilst the bar area and other areas will be free of restrictions. Then it will be for people to decide what they want. I think this is all about building confidence and not at all about control. Sporting venues may do much the same, although that might be complicated by season ticket considerations. The pubs may well not have to do anything - it would be very difficult for the larger ones and after the past year they need all the custom they can get; with necessary social distancing obviously.
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Teddy Eagle

04 Apr 21 2.26pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The pubs may well not have to do anything - it would be very difficult for the larger ones and after the past year they need all the custom they can get; with necessary social distancing obviously.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 04 Apr 21 10.27pm
Originally posted by cryrst Im Defending the fact that speed was of the essence not that it could be mates. If labour had been in power and got the ppe extra quick time as hmg I would never slate the action. It is overpay and im sure questions are being asked.there will be a full enqiry from conception to actions to where the line is drawn. If it comes to fruition that it was a set up then I'm in your camp. I don't though beleive it was. Panic yes, on purpose no. Lives were saved so money well spent imo. Fill your boots though has happened by many many people of all politics and social status. Pointing at one potential is really playing the man not the ball. Let's wait for the enquiry and then discuss from there which is the ensible thing to do.we are very close to getting to the end now and I for one am asstressed as you about the whole bloody thing. Fair enough mate, time might tell i guess.
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Any european country i fancy! 04 Apr 21 10.27pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Im Defending the fact that speed was of the essence not that it could be mates. If labour had been in power and got the ppe extra quick time as hmg I would never slate the action. It is overpay and im sure questions are being asked.there will be a full enqiry from conception to actions to where the line is drawn. If it comes to fruition that it was a set up then I'm in your camp. I don't though beleive it was. Panic yes, on purpose no. Lives were saved so money well spent imo. Fill your boots though has happened by many many people of all politics and social status. Pointing at one potential is really playing the man not the ball. Let's wait for the enquiry and then discuss from there which is the ensible thing to do.we are very close to getting to the end now and I for one am asstressed as you about the whole bloody thing.

Fair enough mate, time might tell i guess.

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