Salmond has now produced 2 witnesses to back his version and the release of the legal advice is pretty damming.

I think Sturgeon has a case to answer, Until now she has been the SNP's greatest asset will the public now see her as a liability if yes then she is gone.

A vote of no confidence can only be won if some on the SNP side with the opposition not sure they are ready to do that just yet but I expect more allegations are bound to emerge.

This is all very Scottish sport, just when it looked like independence was a real possibility from the jaws of victory they snatch defeat.

One more point

wee jimmy Krankie did her homework and had a catapult in her back pocket.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

She is good. Have to give that to her. And has her game honed to the 'nth degree.

Fronting this out all the way and it is clear that as things stand, has zero intention of resigning. Suspect that she would easily brush off a vote of no-confidence because those Nats are unlikely to back any opposition motions.

Have zero idea around how SNP internal disciplinary matters are structured so I guess we will see how it all pans out.

Would not be willing to bet money on her losing her job over this but I reckon damage has been done. The SNP are an odd bunch in that they really pushing lots of this 'woke' BS which puts them at odds with many of their own supporters and this idea of championing Brussels over Westminster is perhaps a lot more creaky than people in England realise.

SNP success is based on a loathing of England which does not always translate into a love of the EU. It is not a zero sum game.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

One could hardly think of anything more helpful to the Independence cause than Westminster vetoing legislation passed by the scots in their own parliament.

But of course the tories have just done it.

Over 60% of the UK now supports indyref2 apparently.

Shell Oil quits new field to the cheers of the Greens and others.

How is Wee Jimmy going to spin this it was supposed to create a 1000 new jobs in Scotland. However she is in power now with the Greens so has to take their views into account an odd alliance.

Remember the SNP telling us it's Scottish oil and an independent Scotland will have a bonanza?

Not sure you can square this circle as the oil fields are harder to operate and more controversial due to climate change and yet Wee Jimmy is now claiming Scotland doesn't need it as they will use green technologies.

At some point the voters will realise that if you take oil out of it the sums don't add up.

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One more point

While I regard this a question purely for the Scots I think that anyone with sense knows that it has to be a mixture of sources for a long time to come......if they make a stupid decision on energy as long as they don't come running to us I'm fine with it.

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