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Mapletree Croydon 28 Sep 20 10.54pm
Anyone noticed this appears to be a mast year for oaks? [Link] Loads of acorns. Not good for dogs, horses or sheep by the way.
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Croydon 28 Sep 20 10.54pm

Anyone noticed this appears to be a mast year for oaks?

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Loads of acorns. Not good for dogs, horses or sheep by the way.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Sep 20 4.53am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Spot on. However the loss of trees/countryside for building of new homes absolutely is. The bigger the population, the more buildings required. The more building, the less trees. Simple logistics. True, for the most part ^^^^ Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes). Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building. Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site. We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers. And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties. And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Spot on.

However the loss of trees/countryside for building of new homes absolutely is.

The bigger the population, the more buildings required. The more building, the less trees.

Simple logistics.

True, for the most part ^^^^

Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes).
Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building.
Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site.
We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers.
And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties.

And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst The garden of England 29 Sep 20 5.58am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly True, for the most part ^^^^ Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes). Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building. Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site. We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers. And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties. And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am) I watched lord of the rings last night as well. Isenguard has a lot to answer for
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The garden of England 29 Sep 20 5.58am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

True, for the most part ^^^^

And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am)

I watched lord of the rings last night as well.
Isenguard has a lot to answer for

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 20 7.46am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly True, for the most part ^^^^ Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes). Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building. Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site. We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers. And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties. And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am) Horsham Council granting permission to build on green fields throughout the district. If anyone knows the area Broadbridge Heath has more than doubled in size and there is now a proposal to develop Rookwood Golf course, this together with the 1800 houses along the A264. I am not being a NIMBY but it is getting out of hand and no new doctors/schools. With regard to Mapletree s comment about woodland, had Gatwick been granted a 2nd runaway, they would have flattened an ancient woodland near Lowfield Heath. As things are going they may not even need 1 runway soon!
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Horsham 29 Sep 20 7.46am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

True, for the most part ^^^^

And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am)

Horsham Council granting permission to build on green fields throughout the district. If anyone knows the area Broadbridge Heath has more than doubled in size and there is now a proposal to develop Rookwood Golf course, this together with the 1800 houses along the A264. I am not being a NIMBY but it is getting out of hand and no new doctors/schools.
With regard to Mapletree s comment about woodland, had Gatwick been granted a 2nd runaway, they would have flattened an ancient woodland near Lowfield Heath. As things are going they may not even need 1 runway soon!

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 20 7.47am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly True, for the most part ^^^^ Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes). Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building. Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site. We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers. And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties. And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am) We are all thinking of you Forest!
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Horsham 29 Sep 20 7.47am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

True, for the most part ^^^^

And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am)

We are all thinking of you Forest!

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Sep 20 5.27pm
Spiderman raises another important issue. New houses are being built on woodland, with limited access to doctors/dentists/schools. The road/public transport provision is normally very poor. But Local councils are under pressure to encourage house building, else they will not get County or Government funding. This issue rests at the door of No.10 I disengage, I turn the page.
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Spiderman raises another important issue. New houses are being built on woodland, with limited access to doctors/dentists/schools. The road/public transport provision is normally very poor.
But Local councils are under pressure to encourage house building, else they will not get County or Government funding.

This issue rests at the door of No.10

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 20 6.35pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Spiderman raises another important issue. New houses are being built on woodland, with limited access to doctors/dentists/schools. The road/public transport provision is normally very poor. But Local councils are under pressure to encourage house building, else they will not get County or Government funding. This issue rests at the door of No.10 Horsham have far exceeded the numbers issued by the Govt. No affordable housing but every house brings in thousands in council Tax. The schools here have always been very good but are getting overcrowded, dentist/ doctors appointments take weeks. Countryside being eradicated by the day. If you drive anywhere now it seems to be the same story. Sad state of affairs
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Horsham 29 Sep 20 6.35pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

This issue rests at the door of No.10

Horsham have far exceeded the numbers issued by the Govt. No affordable housing but every house brings in thousands in council Tax. The schools here have always been very good but are getting overcrowded, dentist/ doctors appointments take weeks. Countryside being eradicated by the day. If you drive anywhere now it seems to be the same story. Sad state of affairs

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 30 Sep 20 5.35am
Spiderman raises some additional issues. The Brown-envelope scenario is also present with developers and Councils. This takes many forms, and not just outright cash-in-hand. In the 1980's my parents wanted a granny-annex built on the side of their detached house. The builder gave a price, and said "Planning will take 6 months, but if you want us to start work tomorrow, we need £500 cash in an envelope". My parents paid, and Planning Permission was immediately given Today, bribery is more covert. No consideration is given to infrastructure and the additional pressure put on it. This includes, Schools, Doctors, Transport, etc and the inevitable erosion of 'the great outdoors'. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (30 Sep 2020 5.39am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Spiderman raises some additional issues. The Brown-envelope scenario is also present with developers and Councils. This takes many forms, and not just outright cash-in-hand.
In the 1980's my parents wanted a granny-annex built on the side of their detached house. The builder gave a price, and said "Planning will take 6 months, but if you want us to start work tomorrow, we need £500 cash in an envelope". My parents paid, and Planning Permission was immediately given

Today, bribery is more covert.

No consideration is given to infrastructure and the additional pressure put on it. This includes, Schools, Doctors, Transport, etc and the inevitable erosion of 'the great outdoors'.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (30 Sep 2020 5.39am)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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samprior Hamburg 30 Sep 20 6.48am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly True, for the most part ^^^^ Many centuries ago, it was possible for a squirrel to start in a tree in Brighton and jump to the next tree, making it's way to Scotland, without touching the ground (So the story goes). Trees were initially cut near coastal ports, for ship building, and in other areas for house building. Today there are plenty of Brownfield sites developers could use, but it is generally a lot cheaper to use green space land, rather than cleaning up a previously used site. We have the issue around me with farmers selling excess land to developers. And demographic changes, have also added to demand. Increasing divorce rate, single parents, alternative lifestyles have all reduced demand for large houses, and increased demand for smaller properties. And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am) I've been reading this book recently which is somewhat connected to your post. The science is interesting as are the wide variety of case studies. If you get a chance during these days of ever increasing 'leisure time' then I'd recommend it. [Link]
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Hamburg 30 Sep 20 6.48am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

True, for the most part ^^^^

And no one considers the trees any more. Let alone the Forest

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Sep 2020 4.56am)

I've been reading this book recently which is somewhat connected to your post. The science is interesting as are the wide variety of case studies. If you get a chance during these days of ever increasing 'leisure time' then I'd recommend it.

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cryrst The garden of England 30 Sep 20 11.11am
Originally posted by samprior I've been reading this book recently which is somewhat connected to your post. The science is interesting as are the wide variety of case studies. If you get a chance during these days of ever increasing 'leisure time' then I'd recommend it. [Link] Life without people on the history channel is interesting. Probably there somewhere if you search.
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The garden of England 30 Sep 20 11.11am

Originally posted by samprior

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Life without people on the history channel is interesting. Probably there somewhere if you search.

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samprior Hamburg 30 Sep 20 11.31am
Originally posted by cryrst Life without people on the history channel is interesting. Probably there somewhere if you search. Ah I've ever seen that. I'll see if I can dig it out. Cheers for the tip.
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Hamburg 30 Sep 20 11.31am

Originally posted by cryrst

Life without people on the history channel is interesting. Probably there somewhere if you search.

Ah I've ever seen that. I'll see if I can dig it out. Cheers for the tip.

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