No, I'm afraid it only works like that for the post modernist types who do their best to try and prove facts don't exists.

You state that "evidence" as a couple of articles from bias sources without actually pointing out any facts associated with them. They are in fact opinion pieces from clearly bias sources. It's up to you to prove otherwise.

Edited by W12 (09 Nov 2019 10.59am)

The same way this is done legally and indeed on news networks around the world....competing versions.

Have your Newsnight, which pushes the neo liberal left lens onto the world and then have your right and left versions.

It's really not that difficult.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Nov 2019 7.37pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

There are quite a few articles from credible sources that provide evidence of the BBC bias against Jeremy Corbyn. The link below is an article in the Independent about a report by Media Reform Coalition and Birkbeck, University of London.

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What has killed more people: communism or capitalism?
Kind of gruesome game to play. But information is easily out there beyond the propaganda hold. Even if our press rely on people to suck up bulls*** and then watch some celebrity TV, anyone a bit curious can find other fact based information.

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The frame of the debate is set by our capitalist system. But poverty itself kills as does our intolerance of other systems and how they have to divert money from social programs to the the military to keep us capitalist wolves away from their door.

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (11 Nov 2019 11.23pm)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (11 Nov 2019 11.39pm)

When you look at the pile of bones it isn't even comparable. Communism deliberately set out to murder its opposition. Capitalism does have its pile but it's mainly via early neglect. though it had its short lived authoritarian regimes as well. However, modern day capitalism has had its fangs blunted via socialism and regulation.

If you want to attribute modern day deaths to capitalism today it's far more likely to be diabetes....its relative life expectancy is its testament.

Capitalism works because its focus is in rewarding competing entities that can successfully supply a need.....it works with the self interest part of human nature....that's incredibly successful.

Humans are inherently lazy....as in nature, everything reduces to its lowest energy state. Without motive, people aren't going to strive.

Communism fails because it treats humans like blank slates and ignores their aspirations and indeed punishes them.....essentially, unless there is the tyranny of forced labour or pain of death it creates the soviet saying, 'they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work'.

However, Marx and Engels correctly identified some of capitalism's exploitational flaws at a time when it was unregulated. (without having any good solutions)...Eventually unionist action resulted in eventual worker's rights and gradually forms of socialism led to the regulated capitalism that we have now in the west.

As has been stated, the welfare state, NHS, state education and other tax funded institutions are forms of socialism....though the concept of community funded endeavors isn't alien to capitalism.

However, as the youth have not been exposed to the failures of communism and its sister socialism as a governing force they form the vanguard of those who push for it today.

Yet socialism only works as a form of moral pressure upon capitalism.....By itself, as a governing force, it runs economies into the ground.

They know not what they do.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2019 2.18am)

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