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Belmont 17 Oct 19 2.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Keep saying it and it will become 'true'. I thought something like that would be your response but it would have to be a fraud of massive proportions including some prominent English historians to revise that history but anyway it doesn't mean enough to me to change your view.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 19 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I thought something like that would be your response but it would have to be a fraud of massive proportions including some prominent English historians to revise that history but anyway it doesn't mean enough to me to change your view. I don't dispute the existence of individuals, just their significance and relevance to any conversation about the present.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Oct 19 6.52pm | |
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We did have a Black Prince
Red and Blue Army! |
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TomThePalaceFanatic 18 Oct 19 7.20pm | |
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Need to know the facts of it before discussing this. If he simply dressed as a rapper and this was seen as some sort of cultural appropriation then a dismissal is very extreme and probably wrong. If he ‘blacked up’ then there is a major difference. Although I’d argue he should have just been reprimanded as it would clearly be through ignorance rather than any malice. It’s all guesswork though.
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silvertop Portishead 18 Oct 19 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by TomThePalaceFanatic
Need to know the facts of it before discussing this. If he simply dressed as a rapper and this was seen as some sort of cultural appropriation then a dismissal is very extreme and probably wrong. If he ‘blacked up’ then there is a major difference. Although I’d argue he should have just been reprimanded as it would clearly be through ignorance rather than any malice. It’s all guesswork though. Quite. That said why should things not be put into pre cultural oppression context. Olivier played othello and other roles in black face. Christopher Lee and Edward G Robinson and (laughably) John Wayne yellowed up for roles. Then it was called acting and no one batted an eyelid. It smacks of latter day witch hunt that a person - and they are always caucasian males - will be hauled over for touching a woman's knee once decades ago or dressing as a minstrel once when they were 11. Rape murder you understand why society wont let them off the hook just because time has passed. But this sort of trivial zeitgeist tosh?
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 19 Oct 19 1.25am | |
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I say what I always say in threads like this and that’s unless something breaks the law then so f***ing what... Thing is that so many seem to forget is that being offended is not a crime... It’s subjective... for what one person finds offensive the person next to them doesn’t... As Steven fry said being offended doesn’t give you an entitlement.. it’s just a whine... Deal with it and just get on with life I say..
Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!! |
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 19 Oct 19 7.24am | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I say what I always say in threads like this and that’s unless something breaks the law then so f***ing what... Thing is that so many seem to forget is that being offended is not a crime... It’s subjective... for what one person finds offensive the person next to them doesn’t... As Steven fry said being offended doesn’t give you an entitlement.. it’s just a whine... Deal with it and just get on with life I say.. Hammer. Nail. Head.
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Midlands Eagle 19 Oct 19 7.52am | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I say what I always say in threads like this and that’s unless something breaks the law then so f***ing what... Thing is that so many seem to forget is that being offended is not a crime... It’s subjective... for what one person finds offensive the person next to them doesn’t... Unfortunately in the age that we live in the Twitterati have a huge say in who has offended their sensitive souls
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Bekken 19 Oct 19 8.01am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
It was a genuine question not a rhetorical one. Maybe I don't possess the bandwith cerebrally to understand the complexities of this issue but I am more than happy to be educated accordingly to perhaps gain a greater understanding of the issues involved. Edited by Willo (16 Oct 2019 3.35pm) We’ve created a whole film whereby two black people dress up as ‘white chicks’ for entertainment purposes. Nothing was said.
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stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 19 Oct 19 3.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Bekken
We’ve created a whole film whereby two black people dress up as ‘white chicks’ for entertainment purposes. Nothing was said. I was incredibly offended by this "comedy"...because I wasted my time watching the complete pile of tosh.
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Belmont 20 Oct 19 7.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't dispute the existence of individuals, just their significance and relevance to any conversation about the present. Well I guess you could debate the relevance of most individuals in British history at least the ones you know about, but how much do you actually know about Black British history (I use that term for convenience as for me there is only history not white not black just history)
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