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Invalid user 2019 23 Jun 19 9.30pm | |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Never protested as I work full time... I never realised those were the rules. I work more than full time - usually about 70 hours a week yet manage my time to protest about issues I value. My take on this is that it shows just how bonkers this nation has become. You chuck a milkshake at a low level politico and its assault. You manhandled a woman in an evening dress who was clearly part of an organised climate change demonstration and you are some sort of hero. We increasingly are living in a world where those who mutter darkly about government and press intrusion now spend hours with an ear to the wall hoping to catch a tit bit of scandal from next door. I do think that this whole milkshake business should be deemed as an assault really. There has to be a consequence for that kind of intrusion into someones personal space, if only as a deterrent to others. Actual physical acts of violence are of course worse, just as cowardly and more consequential. I don't really heap this into that pile though as it wasn't a premeditated act, like hurling a milkshake. It was an instinctive action at a perceived threat. I can see how it would be deemed excessive, and I don't think it shows him in a good light, but at the same time, I'm not sure that I'd want a message sent out that if people burst into a room with unknown intentions, everyone should just passively sit there and let events unfold through fear of personal consequence. What happened wasn't ideal by any means, but a sense of perspective should be applied. It's a 'tomorrow's fish and chip paper' situation.
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Teddy Eagle 23 Jun 19 10.32pm | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I do think that this whole milkshake business should be deemed as an assault really. There has to be a consequence for that kind of intrusion into someones personal space, if only as a deterrent to others. Actual physical acts of violence are of course worse, just as cowardly and more consequential. I don't really heap this into that pile though as it wasn't a premeditated act, like hurling a milkshake. It was an instinctive action at a perceived threat. I can see how it would be deemed excessive, and I don't think it shows him in a good light, but at the same time, I'm not sure that I'd want a message sent out that if people burst into a room with unknown intentions, everyone should just passively sit there and let events unfold through fear of personal consequence. What happened wasn't ideal by any means, but a sense of perspective should be applied. It's a 'tomorrow's fish and chip paper' situation.
That’s a fair assessment. Bit of a Catch-22 situation; sit there doing nothing and get mocked for being spineless or grab the person and get accused of assault.
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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 19 12.09am | |
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Apparently this event had no security. In that case, unless you are going to wait half an hour for the Police to turn up I expect someone had to make her leave.
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Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Apparently this event had no security. In that case, unless you are going to wait half an hour for the Police to turn up I expect someone had to make her leave. Haha. Obviously you don’t know where Mansion House is. Plod central with a Police Station just up the road. No security? That is completely unbelievable.
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Badger11 Beckenham 24 Jun 19 8.43am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Haha. Obviously you don’t know where Mansion House is. Plod central with a Police Station just up the road. No security? That is completely unbelievable. Exactly rather than focus on the MP why is the media not focusing on the lack of security. 40 odd (and I mean odd) demonstrators were able to gain access. Whatever security was there be it police or private security was completely inadequate for an event that is an obvious target for protestors.
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ChrisGC Wantage 24 Jun 19 8.53am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Exactly rather than focus on the MP why is the media not focusing on the lack of security. 40 odd (and I mean odd) demonstrators were able to gain access. Whatever security was there be it police or private security was completely inadequate for an event that is an obvious target for protestors.
Sounds like it could have been a set up?
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Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 9.36am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Apparently this event had no security. In that case, unless you are going to wait half an hour for the Police to turn up I expect someone had to make her leave. As usual you didn’t check your facts Stirling It was security that called the Police. There is a blog in the Spectator about the light touch security. The Police would have been there almost instantaneously, Cannon Street is next door too which is policed. Try finding another excuse. Field isn’t, he simply apologised but hey, what does he know.
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Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Sounds like it could have been a set up? I wonder if at least they had a key to a service door or some such.
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ChrisGC Wantage 24 Jun 19 9.51am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I wonder if at least they had a key to a service door or some such. Exactly. Got to have had someone on the inside, surely? 40 of them bowling about at a high security event in the city ffs
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