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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 18 11.35am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The universe is remarkably silent in these terms.....the Fermi paradox contains strong arguments that civilisations wipe themselves out before reaching super advanced stages. None of it is knowable.....I suspect that super advanced civilizations learn about and can exploit yet unknown and revealed dimensions and probably exist there. All speculation.....but the Femi paradox is real and troubling. I suspect the universe is teeming with life away from galactic centres.....I also suspect that advanced life is very rare and always in danger. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 10.55am) Indeed. See my earlier comment. If nuclear warfare doesn't get them, AI will. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 18 11.35am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The universe is remarkably silent in these terms.....the Fermi paradox contains strong arguments that civilisations wipe themselves out before reaching super advanced stages.

None of it is knowable.....I suspect that super advanced civilizations learn about and can exploit yet unknown and revealed dimensions and probably exist there.

All speculation.....but the Femi paradox is real and troubling.

I suspect the universe is teeming with life away from galactic centres.....I also suspect that advanced life is very rare and always in danger.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 10.55am)

Indeed. See my earlier comment. If nuclear warfare doesn't get them, AI will.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Dec 18 11.59am
Originally posted by Badger11 Sorry I have to disagree. I see no evidence of intelligent life there. Ive seen your posts and can confirm at least one poster
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The garden of England 10 Dec 18 11.59am

Originally posted by Badger11

Sorry I have to disagree. I see no evidence of intelligent life there.

Ive seen your posts and can confirm at least one poster

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Dec 18 2.19pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Indeed. See my earlier comment. If nuclear warfare doesn't get them, AI will. Possibly, but I would imagine that there could be a percentage of planets that produce societies that survive the pitfalls and achieve greater consciousness. Even if 90% fail, that could still be a lot given the potential numbers involved. The biggest problem with estimating the possibility of visitations or even nearby alien civilisations is that we don't know all the rules. It is impossible to know. The Drake equation, Fermi paradox and even our current grasp of physics could well be very crude attempts at understanding reality.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Indeed. See my earlier comment. If nuclear warfare doesn't get them, AI will.

Possibly, but I would imagine that there could be a percentage of planets that produce societies that survive the pitfalls and achieve greater consciousness. Even if 90% fail, that could still be a lot given the potential numbers involved.

The biggest problem with estimating the possibility of visitations or even nearby alien civilisations is that we don't know all the rules. It is impossible to know.

The Drake equation, Fermi paradox and even our current grasp of physics could well be very crude attempts at understanding reality.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 18 2.51pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Possibly, but I would imagine that there could be a percentage of planets that produce societies that survive the pitfalls and achieve greater consciousness. Even if 90% fail, that could still be a lot given the potential numbers involved. The biggest problem with estimating the possibility of visitations or even nearby alien civilisations is that we don't know all the rules. It is impossible to know. The Drake equation, Fermi paradox and even our current grasp of physics could well be very crude attempts at understanding reality. Perhaps the only intelligence capable of making contact is artificial itself, having supplanted its creators. AI is the biggest threat to our long term survival as a specie since nuclear weapons, and is a road we're pursuing with much greater vigour and enthusiasm. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 18 2.51pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The biggest problem with estimating the possibility of visitations or even nearby alien civilisations is that we don't know all the rules. It is impossible to know.

The Drake equation, Fermi paradox and even our current grasp of physics could well be very crude attempts at understanding reality.

Perhaps the only intelligence capable of making contact is artificial itself, having supplanted its creators.

AI is the biggest threat to our long term survival as a specie since nuclear weapons, and is a road we're pursuing with much greater vigour and enthusiasm.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Dec 18 3.44pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Perhaps the only intelligence capable of making contact is artificial itself, having supplanted its creators. AI is the biggest threat to our long term survival as a specie since nuclear weapons, and is a road we're pursuing with much greater vigour and enthusiasm. All is possible but I wouldn't be sure of anything. Life itself is unlikely given the things that have to fall into place. It is likely all down to the vast almost infinite number of chances available. Apply that to life that does evolve and become intelligent and the sheer numbers involved make almost anything possible. If technology is achievable within the laws of physics that bends space and makes travel across vast distancs possible then we have a whole lot of space for our visiting aliens to live in. If biological life gives way to AI then ultimately the definitions of what life is might become redefined. We are no more than biological machines after all. A complex AI might perform all the task we can and have all the same 'emotions'. They might well reproduce and exist much as a biological life form does.
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10 Dec 18 3.44pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Perhaps the only intelligence capable of making contact is artificial itself, having supplanted its creators.

AI is the biggest threat to our long term survival as a specie since nuclear weapons, and is a road we're pursuing with much greater vigour and enthusiasm.

All is possible but I wouldn't be sure of anything.

Life itself is unlikely given the things that have to fall into place. It is likely all down to the vast almost infinite number of chances available. Apply that to life that does evolve and become intelligent and the sheer numbers involved make almost anything possible.

If technology is achievable within the laws of physics that bends space and makes travel across vast distancs possible then we have a whole lot of space for our visiting aliens to live in.

If biological life gives way to AI then ultimately the definitions of what life is might become redefined.
We are no more than biological machines after all.
A complex AI might perform all the task we can and have all the same 'emotions'. They might well reproduce and exist much as a biological life form does.

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Lyons550 Shirley 11 Dec 18 3.03pm
Watch the Unacknowledged which is available on Netflix / You tube etc Quite interesting and thought provoking docufilm on the subject [Link] The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 11 Dec 18 3.03pm

Watch the Unacknowledged which is available on Netflix / You tube etc

Quite interesting and thought provoking docufilm on the subject

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The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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chateauferret 11 Dec 18 6.28pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger A complex AI might perform all the task we can and have all the same 'emotions'. They might well reproduce and exist much as a biological life form does. Please state the nature of the medical emergency. ============ The Ferret ============
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11 Dec 18 6.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A complex AI might perform all the task we can and have all the same 'emotions'. They might well reproduce and exist much as a biological life form does.

Please state the nature of the medical emergency.

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