I'm a liberal basically, but I'm not a snowflake or a bleeding heart or whatever, and I think a lot of people who are anti PC are often bigots in disguise, nostalgic for when a spade could be called a spade and wooly woofters were persona non grata, and I don't think the BBC has been taken over by lefties more like robotic careerist monarchists, however we can meet in the middle, there's a new breed of PC types who are riding the 'trans' bandwagon - nothing against people who are 'non-binary' but there's now an attempt to paint anyone who struggles to understand transgenderism as a bigot, one of these new PC types works with me and did a degree in 'gender studies' - and is grateful she was brought up in a world that is not 'hetero-orthodox' (she's about 23 years old). I am now suddenly four square with Stirlingsays and a few of my political opposites on this one. For me I admire Gareth Thomas, think everyone's a bit more bi than they'd like to admit hence homophobia, gay marriage? why not, but being a kid being brought up that way could be a serious headf*ck, and I am a bigot to the new brigade bcos I disapprove of lesbian couples getting artificially inseminated and bringing up the resulting off spring, as another teacher I know did and christened the poor little sod 'Bear'. So maybe all us liberals and conservatives can come together and tell this non binary lot that they are all either pri*cks or c*nts, it's hard enough trying to explain same sex marriage to little kids, but confronting young kids with the issue of transgenderism to make it acceptable runs the risk of encouraging deep confusion too early in life - always thought the loony left thing was exaggerated, not in this case. They're even trying to promote gender neutral toilets these days to accommodate those who feel male one day and female the next - maybe this could be the rallying point which unites us - save our ladies and gents lavs!!!

Have a lay down.

COYP

Perhaps ex hibitionist is starting to discover.....much as I did....that the liberalism of their youth....the 'live and let live' ends up with you being called the bigot.

I use to smile at the 'slippery slope' argument yet I discovered that the more 'socially conservative' types.....and when I say 'socially conservative' I'm not saying those who think women should be chained to the kitchen or beaten if they nag....no I'm talking about the type of social conservativism that puts the family and tradition at the heart of society.....well being for that makes you a bigot to the progressives.

If you start to say....'hang on' and point out how other aspects of society are being damaged......Suddenly you're a nazi and 'insert ridiculous insult'.

Feck em.....they have done nothing but worsen and weaken society for the majority....whilst using platitudes and pretence to say otherwise.

I too use to think that being liberal was for a better society.....In lots of ways I still am liberal.....For example I think prostitution should be legalised to protect sex workers and I'm softened....to an extent on drug legalisation....to an extent that was due to listening to Jamie's arguments on here....Not that I totally agreed, but he also talked sense....I also couldn't give a feck who someone consensually shags....As long as I don't have to hear about it and how 'proud' they are.....What the feck is that all about anyway?

However....when it comes to many of the changes the progressives have introduced into society.....When I look around at what this country is becoming.....I think progressivism is a disaster.

If anyone in primary school tries to teach LGBQ...67XTYZ....to my young boys. After I lecture them about sexually politicising my children at an age when they should be innocent and playing....I'd withdraw them from the school.

The can complain about 'toxic masculinity' until the cows come home.....they aren't turning my kids into NPCs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Nov 2018 4.42pm)

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