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 chris123  hove actually 26 Nov 18 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Oh well You lose some, you lose some Not much hope of 'taking back our waters' if we want to get a trade deal it seems Who'da thought it... At least we still have our optimism eh? Not sure how the European Council affects us once we've said our goodbyes.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Nov 18 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Oh well You lose some, you lose some Not much hope of 'taking back our waters' if we want to get a trade deal it seems Who'da thought it... At least we still have our optimism eh? Did someone put him in charge then? This answers some of your earlier queries as to why anyone should listen to the Fishing issue, on either side.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Nov 18 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Did someone put him in charge then? This answers some of your earlier queries as to why anyone should listen to the Fishing issue, on either side. Not really I don't think Urk is that influential either. I assume that these guys bought the fishing quotas from UK fisherman by the way, although that isn't stated. It's not my fault if some greedy fisheries businessman sold the birth right of his workforce. The addiction to Herring is one of the strangest things known to mankind. A major reason why I struggled to find decent food when I was in Stockholm. Didn't want reindeer steak either.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Nov 18 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Not really I don't think Urk is that influential either. I assume that these guys bought the fishing quotas from UK fisherman by the way, although that isn't stated. It's not my fault if some greedy fisheries businessman sold the birth right of his workforce. The addiction to Herring is one of the strangest things known to mankind. A major reason why I struggled to find decent food when I was in Stockholm. Didn't want reindeer steak either. I wasn't referring to the one town, more this part: It is a reminder that in the Netherlands, UK, France and Spain, fisheries hold more political clout than their overall contribution to the economy might suggest. Europe's cherished fishing communities are part of the national psyche and heritage, and are particularly vulnerable to any changes in the current climate. I agree with the Herring point though. Swedish Christmas dinner has a course with numerous varieties of cold Herring dishes. It's good bait as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind a bit of reindeer to be honest.
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| chris123 hove actually 28 Nov 18 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Not really I don't think Urk is that influential either. I assume that these guys bought the fishing quotas from UK fisherman by the way, although that isn't stated. It's not my fault if some greedy fisheries businessman sold the birth right of his workforce. The addiction to Herring is one of the strangest things known to mankind. A major reason why I struggled to find decent food when I was in Stockholm. Didn't want reindeer steak either. Used to glow post Chernobyl.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Nov 18 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I wasn't referring to the one town, more this part: It is a reminder that in the Netherlands, UK, France and Spain, fisheries hold more political clout than their overall contribution to the economy might suggest. Europe's cherished fishing communities are part of the national psyche and heritage, and are particularly vulnerable to any changes in the current climate. I agree with the Herring point though. Swedish Christmas dinner has a course with numerous varieties of cold Herring dishes. It's good bait as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind a bit of reindeer to be honest. Well yeh, that was really my implied point Stu. Due to history and rose tinted specs, somehow fishing gets a bigger voice than it ever deserves. And due to its bad image and use as a political football, our biggest industry is constantly vilified. If it gets crippled we won't half regret it.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Nov 18 7.07pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well yeh, that was really my implied point Stu. Due to history and rose tinted specs, somehow fishing gets a bigger voice than it ever deserves. And due to its bad image and use as a political football, our biggest industry is constantly vilified. If it gets crippled we won't half regret it. Well the fish won't regret it! Neither will the marine environment mind a relief from their efforts, we would like the sea bed to be just that.. The fish themselves are not represented by politicians and may simply choose to swim to Norway for example, where they have less chance of being caught. The UK fishermans idea of fish conservation has been to ignore it. Looking at what is actually going to happen, it appears that the EU will fish in the UK waters and we can do nothing about it, serves us right. If you concede the right to be walked over, that is precisely what will happen. .
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| chris123 hove actually 28 Nov 18 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Well the fish won't regret it! Neither will the marine environment mind a relief from their efforts, we would like the sea bed to be just that.. The fish themselves are not represented by politicians and may simply choose to swim to Norway for example, where they have less chance of being caught. The UK fishermans idea of fish conservation has been to ignore it. Looking at what is actually going to happen, it appears that the EU will fish in the UK waters and we can do nothing about it, serves us right. If you concede the right to be walked over, that is precisely what will happen. . What about Amber Rudd.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Nov 18 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well yeh, that was really my implied point Stu. Due to history and rose tinted specs, somehow fishing gets a bigger voice than it ever deserves. And due to its bad image and use as a political football, our biggest industry is constantly vilified. If it gets crippled we won't half regret it. It deserves to stand up for itself, which was my point. Otherwise you're kind of implying that a rich person's vote (in anything) should count for more than a poor one's. Ignoring the fishing industry isn't going to stop the, what is in effect, attempted blackmail of threatening x, y or z industry. It's opportunism from those that didn't get the result they wanted or foresaw. If there were better options the money would've gone there long before now. Edited by Stuk (28 Nov 2018 7.22pm)
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Nov 18 7.45pm |
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once sharks become extinct the whole fishing industry will be f***ed up anyway...much more of worry than what bloody brexit will cause. this thread should be based on overfishing rather than fisherman getting their knickers in a twist over quotas & boundaries. Edited by braunstoneagle (28 Nov 2018 7.45pm)
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