I disagree we’ve achieved all we can as a club but I get your point about the novelty wearing off. That was clear in seasons 2 and 3 with the drop in singing or singing when behind. Remember in the first season we outsung the opposition before the kick off after going behind at Selhurst.

COYP

I don’t remember ever walking away from Selhurst Park thinking “That was a poor performance but oh the atmosphere was great and I can’t wait for the next match!”
Fans want to see good attacking football, goals and hopefully points.
The atmosphere is important but secondary.
So far this season we’ve picked up just one point at home, failed to score a single goal and played some uninspiring football despite having good possession.
All of the talk about missing the Ultras and Singing Sections is covering up the real problem. We need a striker that’s obvious but we also need a bit more adventure in our tactics to stimulate the crowd. Roy did a great backs to the wall job last season but his rigid style and unwillingness to change during a game are not inspiring when we can’t win.
Steve Parish’s decision to give in to the Ultras at the expense of loyal fans has betrayed the clubs traditions and has created concern among many fans unnecessarily but a few exciting games with goal action would overcome all of that and get Selhurst rocking again.
Let’s hope it starts tomorrow against the Gooners but to be honest I just can’t see it.

There you go. I'm a loyal season ticket holder for the better part of 20 years.

I know I should be 'grateful' we're in the premier league and we have survived various seasons and Parish saved us..etc..

But it is so dire at the moment. It really is.

The idea of going on Sunday feels like a waste of a day. And as it stands I've made other plans. Now that means we'll probably win this Sunday, but when you look at the form of both teams I can't see Palace getting anything from this.

That said it's the usual irony of the games we're not meant to win that we do win.

I've said this before, I don't think Roy is up to it. We stayed up last season, and Roy oversaw that. But he hasn't had a good start to the season, our player recruitment has been a joke..And he seems to forget about using substitutes.

I know, i was only kidding

Yep. Rumours are it could be a long way off.

COYP

as the novelty of being in the prem as underdogs wears off there's bound to be a dip in the atmosphere - Newcastle and Leeds are renowned for their support, 15 minutes into an ordinary game it goes quiet like everywhere else - no goals and one point in four games would quieten any crowd, the team has a big role in creating the atmosphere - they are more responsible for the lull more than the crowd - though there is the ultras issue, but I wouldn't knock our quality in possession, that's one of the few signs of progress this season, a goal at the end of it would be nice though!