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Pulling your hair out...the Nuclear future.
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 Stirlingsays  21 Oct 18 11.49am |
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The US pulls out of the INF nuclear treaty....and when you look at Russia's defaulting on the agreement and China's military development while it isn't even signed to it.... you can see why. So we are headed back to the build up cold war of attrition.....which....fingers crossed will be once again decided economically in the west's favour. However countries that haven't developed underground shelters for their citizens have essentially condemned them...which is most of them. But we know most people are clueless....if you just don't say something explicitly people intrinsically believe the future is always better. Despite economics teaching them different....In the holistic general level only the advance of technology has improved western lives dramatically....not systems of economics nor political systems. Thoughts?
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| .TUX. 21 Oct 18 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The US pulls out of the INF nuclear treaty....and when you look at Russia's defaulting on the agreement and China's military development while it isn't even signed to it.... you can see why. So we are headed back to the build up cold war of attrition.....which....fingers crossed will be once again decided economically in the west's favour. However countries that haven't developed underground shelters for their citizens have essentially condemned them...which is most of them. But we know most people are clueless....if you just don't say something explicitly people intrinsically believe the future is always better. Despite economics teaching them different....only the advance of technology has improved western lives....not systems of economics nor political systems. Thoughts? Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2018 11.55am) 1. Unlikely due to the demise of the Dollar. As for a nuclear war, i can't see it happening tbh but if it ever did then party hard.............it'll numb the pain
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Oct 18 12.29pm |
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I heard this on LBC, for once most of the experts think Trump is right (maybe not his language). Then some idiot phoned up and said we should get rid of all nukes, how? Well the west should make the first move and then Russia and China would follow suit? Really some people are so naive I think his name was Jeremy. No one wants an escalation but yet again Obama ducked this issue even when he knew Russia was flagrantly ignoring the treaty. They say you should never judge a leader until about 50 years later when history has a better perceptive. I wonder how Obama will be judged because right now it seems every problem on Trmup's desk comes with an Obama did nothing sticker.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 18 12.41pm |
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Thre is no justification for just assuming that Russia has broken the 1987 treaty, they say precisely the opposite. Putin is an experienced leader and there has been no threat of nuclear war or confrontation. Two years into the job and Trump has turned the World into a more dangerous place.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Oct 18 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Thre is no justification for just assuming that Russia has broken the 1987 treaty, they say precisely the opposite. Putin is an experienced leader and there has been no threat of nuclear war or confrontation. Two years into the job and Trump has turned the World into a more dangerous place. These are the views of the completely deluded.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Oct 18 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
1. Unlikely due to the demise of the Dollar. As for a nuclear war, i can't see it happening tbh but if it ever did then party hard.............it'll numb the pain
As for the serious stuff. 1) The demise of the dollar and the rise of the....what? It's very likely to happen unless something is stronger.....the nearest threat is Asian and Trump has started the west on the path to counter that.....only the left can feck it up and give them back their advantage...which of course is what they are banking and holding out on. 2) No these are a snapshot of the improvements that advances in technology have given us.....pretty much all coming out of the capitalistic west. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2018 12.59pm)
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Attachment: | Penge Eagle Beckenham 21 Oct 18 1.09pm |
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Again Trump assessing these global agreements and pulling out when the terms are violated by the other side. It's shows commonsense and strong leadership. It also again puts to bed the narrative from the Democrats that Trump is colluding with Russia when he's been much tougher on them than 'lead from behind' Obama. Also when push comes to shove, the US would obliterate Russia within the space of a few hours and Putin knows it. Edited by Penge Eagle (21 Oct 2018 1.10pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 18 2.36pm |
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Trump is the only president who could unite China and Russia. Their first joint military exercises ever, that's what Trump means, his paranoia is making the enemies stronger, not weaker.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Oct 18 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Trump is the only president who could unite China and Russia. Their first joint military exercises ever, that's what Trump means, his paranoia is making the enemies stronger, not weaker. They were already united. Move your legs a bit quicker, you might catch up. So lets hear your alternative to the Chinese trade imbalance and all the other cheating crap they do? Lets hear what your alternative is towards Russia? Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2018 3.26pm)
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