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Stirlingsays 14 Aug 18 1.46pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Few of us imagine, surely, that the press is not subject to censorship. In our daily lives however we still can speak freely. It is a question of degree, not of one against the other. That's only due to reach. If what you said could reach millions......suddenly you'd find that it mattered. This is about the establishment protecting its narratives and control. Something the left use to be against until they became the power base in the institutions. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Aug 18 1.46pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Few of us imagine, surely, that the press is not subject to censorship.

In our daily lives however we still can speak freely.

It is a question of degree, not of one against the other.

That's only due to reach.

If what you said could reach millions......suddenly you'd find that it mattered.

This is about the establishment protecting its narratives and control.

Something the left use to be against until they became the power base in the institutions.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Aug 18 1.49pm
Originally posted by DanH Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience? Fair point. This is the main issue I have with this little triumvirate of snipers. I'd often much rather debate the subject matter rather than the binary, over simplified notion of left or right, which then becomes distracting and bias inducing and prevents interrogating the topic itself. Which is the interesting part. Not s*** slinging, which does no-ones intellect any favours. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 14 Aug 18 1.49pm

Originally posted by DanH

Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience?

Fair point. This is the main issue I have with this little triumvirate of snipers. I'd often much rather debate the subject matter rather than the binary, over simplified notion of left or right, which then becomes distracting and bias inducing and prevents interrogating the topic itself. Which is the interesting part. Not s*** slinging, which does no-ones intellect any favours.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays 14 Aug 18 1.51pm
Originally posted by DanH Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience? Because it's hyprocrisy. It's implicitly saying.....'I believe in equality......except for those instances in which equality stops me doing well personally'. Didn't you yourself point to the far left corporations being hypocrites on tax earlier. It's pick and choose equality.......not that I believe in equality anyway outside of opportunity.....it's a BS and massively destructive concept. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2018 1.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Aug 18 1.51pm

Originally posted by DanH

Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience?

Because it's hyprocrisy.

It's implicitly saying.....'I believe in equality......except for those instances in which equality stops me doing well personally'.

Didn't you yourself point to the far left corporations being hypocrites on tax earlier.

It's pick and choose equality.......not that I believe in equality anyway outside of opportunity.....it's a BS and massively destructive concept.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2018 1.52pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Aug 18 2.40pm
'far left corporations?' wow that's a new variation for you. Variations on a theme by Paganini Stirling. So Jeremy Corbyn is now a right wing demagogue, I will have to adjust somewhat to this !!!!
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Croydon 14 Aug 18 2.40pm

'far left corporations?'

wow that's a new variation for you.

Variations on a theme by Paganini Stirling.

So Jeremy Corbyn is now a right wing demagogue, I will have to adjust somewhat to this !!!!

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Stirlingsays 14 Aug 18 2.46pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'far left corporations?' wow that's a new variation for you. Variations on a theme by Paganini Stirling. So Jeremy Corbyn is now a right wing demagogue, I will have to adjust somewhat to this !!!! I can't believe I'm in a conversation with people who think that the silicon valley companies aren't far left. Perhaps they should send an email to James Damore. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Aug 18 2.46pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'far left corporations?'

wow that's a new variation for you.

Variations on a theme by Paganini Stirling.

So Jeremy Corbyn is now a right wing demagogue, I will have to adjust somewhat to this !!!!

I can't believe I'm in a conversation with people who think that the silicon valley companies aren't far left.

Perhaps they should send an email to James Damore.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 2.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I can't believe I'm in a conversation with people who think that the silicon valley companies aren't far left. Perhaps they should send an email to James Damore. Serves you right for engaging with the HOL's very own Chuckle Brother. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 2.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I can't believe I'm in a conversation with people who think that the silicon valley companies aren't far left.

Perhaps they should send an email to James Damore.

Serves you right for engaging with the HOL's very own Chuckle Brother.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Aug 18 4.18pm
Originally posted by DanH Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience? What is a social conscience. Because if this social conscience is the want of creating a socialist environment of bringing the so called wealth gap closer then you can make the money yes. Then it will be taken from you and shared out equally to people who can't be arsed to.
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The garden of England 14 Aug 18 4.18pm

Originally posted by DanH

Why do you lot have to try and put everything in neat little political boxes? Why are you not allowed to make money if you also have a social conscience?

What is a social conscience.
Because if this social conscience is the want of creating a socialist environment of bringing the so called wealth gap closer then you can make the money yes. Then it will be taken from you and shared out equally to people who can't be arsed to.

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elgrande bedford 14 Aug 18 5.06pm
What's that old saying " the trouble with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money ". always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 14 Aug 18 5.06pm

What's that old saying " the trouble with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money ".

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 5.10pm
Originally posted by elgrande What's that old saying " the trouble with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money ". Thatch at her best. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 5.10pm

Originally posted by elgrande

What's that old saying " the trouble with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money ".

Thatch at her best.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Aug 18 5.28pm
Definitely not. Mrs Thatcher's own appraisal of the economy in her premiership was that 'there were winners and there were losers' Mrs Thatcher was ousted by a sharp recession which brought her economic policies into a different light. She said that her Chancellor (Lawson) had messed it up and must fix it. That never happened and I guess that's where blaming Brussels for all our ills began. With Margaret Thatcher.
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Croydon 14 Aug 18 5.28pm

Definitely not.

Mrs Thatcher's own appraisal of the economy in her premiership was that 'there were winners and there were losers'

Mrs Thatcher was ousted by a sharp recession which brought her economic policies into a different light.

She said that her Chancellor (Lawson) had messed it up and must fix it.

That never happened and I guess that's where blaming Brussels for all our ills began.

With Margaret Thatcher.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 6.01pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Definitely not. Mrs Thatcher's own appraisal of the economy in her premiership was that 'there were winners and there were losers' Mrs Thatcher was ousted by a sharp recession which brought her economic policies into a different light. She said that her Chancellor (Lawson) had messed it up and must fix it. That never happened and I guess that's where blaming Brussels for all our ills began. With Margaret Thatcher. A magnificent Prime Minister. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 18 6.01pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Definitely not.

She said that her Chancellor (Lawson) had messed it up and must fix it.

That never happened and I guess that's where blaming Brussels for all our ills began.

With Margaret Thatcher.

A magnificent Prime Minister.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Aug 18 9.09pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Thatch at her best. Yep whatever happened to dear old Ben Elton? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Aug 18 9.09pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Thatch at her best.

Yep whatever happened to dear old Ben Elton?

Pro USA & Israel

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