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ZIGnZAG Stoke 12 Apr 18 10.23am
Originally posted by grumpymort The world is not horrible but the people living on it are. human race is the problem and it is getting worse. we need a big event to happen something like half the population is wiped out the current ways are not working This.
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Stoke 12 Apr 18 10.23am

Originally posted by grumpymort

The world is not horrible but the people living on it are.

human race is the problem and it is getting worse.

we need a big event to happen something like half the population is wiped out the current ways are not working

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Stirlingsays 12 Apr 18 10.30am
Complains that people are horrible. Advocates for the death of half the planet. Please tell me it's self mockery. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 10.31am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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12 Apr 18 10.30am

Complains that people are horrible.

Advocates for the death of half the planet.

Please tell me it's self mockery.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 10.31am)

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Andy_G Wimbledon 12 Apr 18 11.04am
I have always believed and continue to believe that people are basically good and caring. Its just life and in particular western life make people angry, selfish etc. Go anywhere and have a problem and most people will try to help, the further from cities the truer this is but even in London people help if someone falls over or has a problem. Good news is not news so all we get is bad stuff and it seems like the world consists of terrible things and terrible people....I just don't believe that is true for the vast majority of the worlds population. The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years
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Wimbledon 12 Apr 18 11.04am

I have always believed and continue to believe that people are basically good and caring. Its just life and in particular western life make people angry, selfish etc. Go anywhere and have a problem and most people will try to help, the further from cities the truer this is but even in London people help if someone falls over or has a problem. Good news is not news so all we get is bad stuff and it seems like the world consists of terrible things and terrible people....I just don't believe that is true for the vast majority of the worlds population.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Apr 18 11.14am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Complains that people are horrible. Advocates for the death of half the planet. Please tell me it's self mockery. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 10.31am) Looking at it objectively and without emotion, he is probably right. There is no doubt that the single biggest problem facing humanity is too many humans. Killing half the planet is not really a humane solution but sterilising half of them might be. The world of 200 years time might not be a place where you want to raise children anyway.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Complains that people are horrible.

Advocates for the death of half the planet.

Please tell me it's self mockery.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 10.31am)

Looking at it objectively and without emotion, he is probably right. There is no doubt that the single biggest problem facing humanity is too many humans.
Killing half the planet is not really a humane solution but sterilising half of them might be. The world of 200 years time might not be a place where you want to raise children anyway.

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Stirlingsays 12 Apr 18 12.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Looking at it objectively and without emotion, he is probably right. There is no doubt that the single biggest problem facing humanity is too many humans. Killing half the planet is not really a humane solution but sterilising half of them might be. The world of 200 years time might not be a place where you want to raise children anyway. I wanted to highlight the irony in the statement. Also there is no serious way of looking at a statement like that without emotion....unless it's just a p1ss take of course. Different demographics breed at different rates. I would suggest that not enough English people are actually having enough children. I don't think you can force mass sterilisation onto people in any reasonable way. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 12.32pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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12 Apr 18 12.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I wanted to highlight the irony in the statement.

Also there is no serious way of looking at a statement like that without emotion....unless it's just a p1ss take of course.

Different demographics breed at different rates. I would suggest that not enough English people are actually having enough children.

I don't think you can force mass sterilisation onto people in any reasonable way.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 12.32pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Apr 18 1.22pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I wanted to highlight the irony in the statement. Also there is no serious way of looking at a statement like that without emotion....unless it's just a p1ss take of course. Different demographics breed at different rates. I would suggest that not enough English people are actually having enough children. I don't think you can force mass sterilisation onto people in any reasonable way. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 12.32pm) As I have said before, any such scheme would have to sterilise relative to birth rate. Europe's birthrate won't even sustain its population without immigration. Africa and Asia are where the problem lies. A large number of the people in those regions will be moving to Europe in the coming decades, so their problems will become ours. As harsh and sinister as sterilisation sounds, the alternative will be far worse for everyone.
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12 Apr 18 1.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I wanted to highlight the irony in the statement.

Also there is no serious way of looking at a statement like that without emotion....unless it's just a p1ss take of course.

Different demographics breed at different rates. I would suggest that not enough English people are actually having enough children.

I don't think you can force mass sterilisation onto people in any reasonable way.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2018 12.32pm)

As I have said before, any such scheme would have to sterilise relative to birth rate. Europe's birthrate won't even sustain its population without immigration. Africa and Asia are where the problem lies. A large number of the people in those regions will be moving to Europe in the coming decades, so their problems will become ours. As harsh and sinister as sterilisation sounds, the alternative will be far worse for everyone.

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johnfirewall 18 Apr 18 8.18pm
Palace are doing OK and I saw kids playing kerbsies today and a young woman taking pictures of flowers on my way home. Granted it was on her phone, but at least the kids had put theres down for 5 minutes.
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18 Apr 18 8.18pm

Palace are doing OK and I saw kids playing kerbsies today and a young woman taking pictures of flowers on my way home.

Granted it was on her phone, but at least the kids had put theres down for 5 minutes.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 18 Apr 18 10.02pm
The world might not be as horrific as most people think, but it could certainly be better. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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The world might not be as horrific as most people think, but it could certainly be better.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Apr 18 8.35am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC [Link] 'It is absolutely true that there are many bad things in this world. The number of conflict fatalities has been falling since the second world war, but the Syrian war has reversed this trend. Terrorism too is rising. Overfishing and the deterioration of the seas are truly worrisome. The list of endangered species is getting longer. But while it is easy to be aware of all the bad things happening in the world, it’s harder to know about the good things. The silent miracle of human progress is too slow and too fragmented to ever qualify as news. Over the past 20 years, the proportion of people living in extreme poverty has almost halved. But in online polls, in most countries, fewer than 10% of people knew this.' An interesting, and often sidelined point of view. Not to be misconstrued with saying everything is fine, but sometimes it's helpful to take a breath before diving back in. Forum Triumvirate, ASSEMBLE We ignore the good and focus on the bad especially on the news. Back in the seventies half of Europe was communist, Greece, Portugal and Spain were dictatorships. Latin America and Asia were largely undemocratic. All of those regions have moved in the right direction. Africa and the Middle East are the stand out regions which suffer from deja vue. Although even here people can point to specific countries that have made progress. I prefer to take a positive view of humanity. If the west can stop throwing money at Africa and instead allow it free trade access they will earn their way out of poverty. This is one of my hopes for Brexit that Britain leads the way in free trade with poorer countries. Teach a man to fish etc. Apologies if I posted something similar on another thread I tend to repeat myself these days. Edited by Badger11 (19 Apr 2018 8.36am) One more point
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

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'It is absolutely true that there are many bad things in this world. The number of conflict fatalities has been falling since the second world war, but the Syrian war has reversed this trend. Terrorism too is rising. Overfishing and the deterioration of the seas are truly worrisome. The list of endangered species is getting longer.

But while it is easy to be aware of all the bad things happening in the world, it’s harder to know about the good things. The silent miracle of human progress is too slow and too fragmented to ever qualify as news. Over the past 20 years, the proportion of people living in extreme poverty has almost halved. But in online polls, in most countries, fewer than 10% of people knew this.'

An interesting, and often sidelined point of view. Not to be misconstrued with saying everything is fine, but sometimes it's helpful to take a breath before diving back in.

Forum Triumvirate, ASSEMBLE

We ignore the good and focus on the bad especially on the news. Back in the seventies half of Europe was communist, Greece, Portugal and Spain were dictatorships. Latin America and Asia were largely undemocratic. All of those regions have moved in the right direction. Africa and the Middle East are the stand out regions which suffer from deja vue. Although even here people can point to specific countries that have made progress.

I prefer to take a positive view of humanity. If the west can stop throwing money at Africa and instead allow it free trade access they will earn their way out of poverty. This is one of my hopes for Brexit that Britain leads the way in free trade with poorer countries. Teach a man to fish etc.

Apologies if I posted something similar on another thread I tend to repeat myself these days.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Apr 2018 8.36am)

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the.universal 19 Apr 18 8.46am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger As I have said before, any such scheme would have to sterilise relative to birth rate. Europe's birthrate won't even sustain its population without immigration. Africa and Asia are where the problem lies. A large number of the people in those regions will be moving to Europe in the coming decades, so their problems will become ours. As harsh and sinister as sterilisation sounds, the alternative will be far worse for everyone. It makes me sad that you would even advocate this, but each to their own. A moot point anyway, is it would never happen. The way to lower birth rates in developing countries is to raise living standards and education, especially for girls/women. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 19 Apr 18 8.46am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It makes me sad that you would even advocate this, but each to their own. A moot point anyway, is it would never happen.

The way to lower birth rates in developing countries is to raise living standards and education, especially for girls/women.

Vive le Roy!

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