Not sure you can say that. If he was the biggest cvnt on the planet but mid table he'd have been alright.

The whole thing was disjointed the moment the interviews with Parish and the club video interviewer were finished. It didn't help with Parish being on holiday and not tapping him on the shoulder and asking, 'Hey, what happened to gradual changes? Why are you doing things we can't do get?' But I suppose there's always the phone and Skype if it wasn't for the fact Frank would've thought, 'yeah whatever, what do you know' without a physical presence.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 Mar 2018 11.25am)

"Culprit"? As I understand it de Boer was behaving like a total arsehole with the players; sent Ward and Kelly to train with the U23s after telling them they were s***e, playing Milivojevic as a centre-back in the pre-season then dropping him altogheter, picking an out-of-form Puncheon all the time and imposing a system on the players that everyone except him knew was madness. In which case Puncheon, Delaney, Milivojevic or whoever was acting as player's conduit to the manager, which is nothing new for those men, and advising him to get his head out of his arse and start managing.

He pardewed Milivojevic and that on its own ought to have been a sacking offence. And I'm still not convinced he didn't reduce Benteke to what he is now - he was fine until de Boer turned up.

There's no way he would have been "alright afer having ten games" or whatever because he was ruining our players. Therefore it would only have gotten worse.

Edited by chateauferret (17 Mar 2018 1.17pm)

Exactly this. The damage was already done as they say. He couldn’t look the fans in the eyes in the main stand when he walked down the touch line at the Ipswich and Swansea games. He gave a feeble clap and turned his head back to the byline. Very odd body language after the Huddersfield debacle. You could tell them that all was not well.