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Stuk Top half 08 Feb 18 1.38pm
Originally posted by Jimenez It's why I emigrated Stuk. Assange has nothing on me. On the straight and narrow now !! Is that as straight as Tarantino said that road was... Optimistic as ever
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Top half 08 Feb 18 1.38pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

It's why I emigrated Stuk. Assange has nothing on me. On the straight and narrow now !!

Is that as straight as Tarantino said that road was...

Optimistic as ever

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Feb 18 10.57pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Some on the BBS are probably drawing up petitions and producing badges for their campaign. I'm waiting for the first politician to try to take their moment. One thing you're going to have to be in those roles now is more physically fit as more jobs go due to living wages and they try to match Aldi and Lidl's productivity. In America, in the Amazon stores, with a phone app, you can put all your shopping in a bag as you go round, place it on the self service till and it knows what you have. Sainsburys are trialling it apparently. Scousers have trialled it, without the till. Step forward Emily Thornberry on QT. ''Barbara Castle will be spinning in her grave. Till staff who are women should be paid the same. Carers should be paid the same as bankers.'' Bring on communism then, Emily. £8 an hour for you, same as everyone and 1,500 calories a day. Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Feb 2018 2.34pm) COYP
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Caterham 08 Feb 18 10.57pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Some on the BBS are probably drawing up petitions and producing badges for their campaign. I'm waiting for the first politician to try to take their moment.

One thing you're going to have to be in those roles now is more physically fit as more jobs go due to living wages and they try to match Aldi and Lidl's productivity.

In America, in the Amazon stores, with a phone app, you can put all your shopping in a bag as you go round, place it on the self service till and it knows what you have. Sainsburys are trialling it apparently. Scousers have trialled it, without the till.

Step forward Emily Thornberry on QT. ''Barbara Castle will be spinning in her grave. Till staff who are women should be paid the same. Carers should be paid the same as bankers.''

Bring on communism then, Emily. £8 an hour for you, same as everyone and 1,500 calories a day.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Feb 2018 2.34pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Feb 18 11.13pm
The only workers I've seen on camera complaining are overweight women in their late 50's. They seem to think these supermarkets are giving higher wages away in the warehouses for nothing. They will know what they need to pay to get the workrate and stamina for it and overtime. They won't be gifting it away. Now you have those with the lawyers that want backdated parity and one on QT who wants the warehouse pay lowered to the same as the checkouts. She may find the company grinds to a halt and she has no products to scan and no job. She thought that and shelf stacking is as hard as when she went in the warehouse. Well as she went in the warehouse and it wasn't any harder, why didn't she stay or apply for warehouse work? Because she's the size of 2 people maybe? COYP
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Caterham 08 Feb 18 11.13pm

The only workers I've seen on camera complaining are overweight women in their late 50's. They seem to think these supermarkets are giving higher wages away in the warehouses for nothing. They will know what they need to pay to get the workrate and stamina for it and overtime. They won't be gifting it away. Now you have those with the lawyers that want backdated parity and one on QT who wants the warehouse pay lowered to the same as the checkouts. She may find the company grinds to a halt and she has no products to scan and no job. She thought that and shelf stacking is as hard as when she went in the warehouse. Well as she went in the warehouse and it wasn't any harder, why didn't she stay or apply for warehouse work? Because she's the size of 2 people maybe?

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Badger11 Beckenham 09 Feb 18 7.41am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Step forward Emily Thornberry on QT. ''Mary Whitehouse will be spinning in her grave. Till staff who are women should be paid the same. Carers should be paid the same as bankers.'' Bring on communism then, Emily. £8 an hour for you, same as everyone and 1,500 calories a day. Just watched a documentary on BBC4 about Cuba. Beautiful country in economic meltdown because most people are paid by the state. The presenter said there is a Cuban saying "they (the government) pretend to pay us and we pretend to work". One more point
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Beckenham 09 Feb 18 7.41am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Step forward Emily Thornberry on QT. ''Mary Whitehouse will be spinning in her grave. Till staff who are women should be paid the same. Carers should be paid the same as bankers.''

Bring on communism then, Emily. £8 an hour for you, same as everyone and 1,500 calories a day.

Just watched a documentary on BBC4 about Cuba. Beautiful country in economic meltdown because most people are paid by the state. The presenter said there is a Cuban saying "they (the government) pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".

One more point

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Feb 18 9.40am
Originally posted by Badger11 Just watched a documentary on BBC4 about Cuba. Beautiful country in economic meltdown because most people are paid by the state. The presenter said there is a Cuban saying "they (the government) pretend to pay us and we pretend to work". Emily Thornberry pretends to be a worthwhile politician. She's labelled the checkout job as a female job along with one or two others. I don't know how this was first question on QT. Maybe a change from Brexit first was enough to get it on first. Or maybe everyone stating the jobs in question are 2 different roles being done by both sexes, being paid the same in the same job is a good thing to expose this bollox for what it is. It makes me laugh the only females complaining look in their late 50's and very overweight. Maybe they fear losing their job when they're required to work harder for the new £10 living wage after their middle management are made redundant and possibly recruitment is reduced. That's another matter and no excuse for this ill judged crusade. They might be surprised how much harder they can work. Warehouse work isn't harder after all. It's good to see no younger people complaining over this nonsense. The pay of store workers is going to increase. There's no need to slash pay of distribution warehouse staff. They'll probably struggle to fill the positions. Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Feb 2018 9.45am) COYP
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Caterham 09 Feb 18 9.40am

Originally posted by Badger11

Emily Thornberry pretends to be a worthwhile politician. She's labelled the checkout job as a female job along with one or two others.

I don't know how this was first question on QT. Maybe a change from Brexit first was enough to get it on first. Or maybe everyone stating the jobs in question are 2 different roles being done by both sexes, being paid the same in the same job is a good thing to expose this bollox for what it is.

It makes me laugh the only females complaining look in their late 50's and very overweight. Maybe they fear losing their job when they're required to work harder for the new £10 living wage after their middle management are made redundant and possibly recruitment is reduced. That's another matter and no excuse for this ill judged crusade. They might be surprised how much harder they can work. Warehouse work isn't harder after all.

It's good to see no younger people complaining over this nonsense. The pay of store workers is going to increase. There's no need to slash pay of distribution warehouse staff. They'll probably struggle to fill the positions.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Feb 2018 9.45am)

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nead1 09 Feb 18 11.17am
A business the size of Tesco are bound to have some form of Job Evaluation in place to measure job size/job value across the business - often done in conjunction with Trade Unions who ironically are now driving the claim. However, the issue is far bigger than Tesco - all the big chains will have exactly the same issue. Its also interesting to note that there are many men working in the stores on checkouts etc - no doubt paid exactly the same as the female employees.By the way, Peter Morley, the Palace President used to be the Group HRD of Tesco - I wonder what he thinks?
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09 Feb 18 11.17am

A business the size of Tesco are bound to have some form of Job Evaluation in place to measure job size/job value across the business - often done in conjunction with Trade Unions who ironically are now driving the claim. However, the issue is far bigger than Tesco - all the big chains will have exactly the same issue. Its also interesting to note that there are many men working in the stores on checkouts etc - no doubt paid exactly the same as the female employees.By the way, Peter Morley, the Palace President used to be the Group HRD of Tesco - I wonder what he thinks?

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elgrande bedford 09 Feb 18 2.31pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Ah Tesco's that brings back very fond memories for me. I remember working at one unnamed branch(For obvious reasons) in SW London back in the early 80s, when I had no work & a mortgage at that time. To supplement their meagre wages I hooked up with a well known local villain & as I was stacking shelves at night I would get those 2 litre bottles of home brand Tesco lemonade flush it down the khazi & then re-top it up with either Gin, Vodka or Bacardi & mark said bottle with a small felt tip pen. Said local villain would then enter the store at 7.30 AM and purchase all the bottles of lemonade. He in turn sold of the booze to local pubs. Twas a good Xmas financially for me. Nice one,reminds me of me and my mate used to work at David Greggs(theres one for the older gen) in Brixton. It was right in the market and one of the arches was their stockroom. We used to get sent to pick up new stock from said storeroom with a massive barrow,so we used to load it up and then work our way down the stalls selling all the gear,then go back and fill it again. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 09 Feb 18 2.31pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Ah Tesco's that brings back very fond memories for me. I remember working at one unnamed branch(For obvious reasons) in SW London back in the early 80s, when I had no work & a mortgage at that time. To supplement their meagre wages I hooked up with a well known local villain & as I was stacking shelves at night I would get those 2 litre bottles of home brand Tesco lemonade flush it down the khazi & then re-top it up with either Gin, Vodka or Bacardi & mark said bottle with a small felt tip pen.
Said local villain would then enter the store at 7.30 AM and purchase all the bottles of lemonade. He in turn sold of the booze to local pubs. Twas a good Xmas financially for me.

Nice one,reminds me of me and my mate used to work at David Greggs(theres one for the older gen) in Brixton.
It was right in the market and one of the arches was their stockroom.
We used to get sent to pick up new stock from said storeroom with a massive barrow,so we used to load it up and then work our way down the stalls selling all the gear,then go back and fill it again.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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johnfirewall 12 Feb 18 10.24pm
Posted another thread because it basically provides several reasons behind for the disparity in a field in which gender should have ZERO bearing but if Tesco paid on the basis of who lifted the most boxes it would be even more unequal. [Link] Edited by johnfirewall (12 Feb 2018 10.27pm)
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12 Feb 18 10.24pm

Posted another thread because it basically provides several reasons behind for the disparity in a field in which gender should have ZERO bearing but if Tesco paid on the basis of who lifted the most boxes it would be even more unequal.

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johnfirewall 12 Feb 18 10.34pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Emily Thornberry pretends to be a worthwhile politician. She's labelled the checkout job as a female job along with one or two others. Where was this? She is easily in my top 20 most loathed politicians even counting German Chancellors.
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12 Feb 18 10.34pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Emily Thornberry pretends to be a worthwhile politician. She's labelled the checkout job as a female job along with one or two others.

Where was this?

She is easily in my top 20 most loathed politicians even counting German Chancellors.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 18 10.46pm
Originally posted by johnfirewall Where was this? She is easily in my top 20 most loathed politicians even counting German Chancellors. On QT last Thursday. She actually said something like 'Jobs that tend to be female' or something so maybe I should cut her some slack. But she's talking of raising checkout wages to equal warehouse distribution wages when they're different, but the checkout wages were set very low years ago when it really was mainly female compared to now. Anyway, what hasn't been mentioned by anyone is the minimum wage is being raised. I bet the distribution wages aren't raised by the same percentage and therefore closer. She was careless though and has jumped on it for some political advantage. Give the public credit. They aren't fooling for this shyte and see you have to work for your pay and not just expect it to be matched because they'd like it to. A good sign. The country is going to have to think this way, Brexit or not. COYP
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Caterham 12 Feb 18 10.46pm

Originally posted by johnfirewall

Where was this?

She is easily in my top 20 most loathed politicians even counting German Chancellors.

On QT last Thursday.

She actually said something like 'Jobs that tend to be female' or something so maybe I should cut her some slack. But she's talking of raising checkout wages to equal warehouse distribution wages when they're different, but the checkout wages were set very low years ago when it really was mainly female compared to now. Anyway, what hasn't been mentioned by anyone is the minimum wage is being raised. I bet the distribution wages aren't raised by the same percentage and therefore closer.

She was careless though and has jumped on it for some political advantage. Give the public credit. They aren't fooling for this shyte and see you have to work for your pay and not just expect it to be matched because they'd like it to. A good sign. The country is going to have to think this way, Brexit or not.

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