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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 03 Feb 18 9.03pm
Originally posted by VKR1888 Cut what exactly? Putting 50k into a stadium does not make it good. Clubs are not driving by the weekly attendance of the average punter anymore! Thats kund of true, except, coincidently the most successful affairs have the bigger stadiums. Newcastle and Sunderland attract so many theybare able to,pay above average wages and that helps when a club isn't too successful. That's my point.
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Landrindod, Wales 03 Feb 18 9.03pm

Originally posted by VKR1888

Cut what exactly?

Putting 50k into a stadium does not make it good. Clubs are not driving by the weekly attendance of the average punter anymore!

Thats kund of true, except, coincidently the most successful affairs have the bigger stadiums. Newcastle and Sunderland attract so many theybare able to,pay above average wages and that helps when a club isn't too successful. That's my point.

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Flash Lampeter 04 Feb 18 12.26am
Wouldn't mind if the 'ammers were relegated ... Except their rent would then be cut under the terms of their deal and I guess the cost to the taxpayer would then increase?
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Wouldn't mind if the 'ammers were relegated ... Except their rent would then be cut under the terms of their deal and I guess the cost to the taxpayer would then increase?

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 04 Feb 18 6.55am
Originally posted by adrian b Thats kund of true, except, coincidently the most successful affairs have the bigger stadiums. Newcastle and Sunderland attract so many theybare able to,pay above average wages and that helps when a club isn't too successful. That's my point. Sunderland don't have a pot to p*ss in, they have so little money they have to get players on frees and loans to pay bare minimum wages. I don't know where you get your information from but it's wrong.
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Originally posted by adrian b

Sunderland don't have a pot to p*ss in, they have so little money they have to get players on frees and loans to pay bare minimum wages.

I don't know where you get your information from but it's wrong.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 04 Feb 18 1.27pm
After thee great reviews of the TaxPayer Stadium the first time we played there, it provided me with enough incentive to never want to go there. I moved out of London 5 years ago, so my Council Tax no longer subsidises the knuckle-draggers. I can only suggest their fans are deserving of such a 5hlt football stadium. I disengage, I turn the page.
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After thee great reviews of the TaxPayer Stadium the first time we played there, it provided me with enough incentive to never want to go there.
I moved out of London 5 years ago, so my Council Tax no longer subsidises the knuckle-draggers.

I can only suggest their fans are deserving of such a 5hlt football stadium.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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chateauferret 04 Feb 18 11.46pm
Originally posted by Flash Wouldn't mind if the 'ammers were relegated ... Except their rent would then be cut under the terms of their deal and I guess the cost to the taxpayer would then increase? What? They get their rent reduced if they get relegated? Seriously? I bet nobody else's rent gets reduced if they get relegated. And they pay this rent to the Exchequer, zat right? If so: Somebody please explain to me WTF the Exchequer is doing taking the financial risk attached to a particular Premier League football club's getting relegated. ============ The Ferret ============
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04 Feb 18 11.46pm

Originally posted by Flash

Wouldn't mind if the 'ammers were relegated ... Except their rent would then be cut under the terms of their deal and I guess the cost to the taxpayer would then increase?

What? They get their rent reduced if they get relegated? Seriously?

I bet nobody else's rent gets reduced if they get relegated. And they pay this rent to the Exchequer, zat right?

If so: Somebody please explain to me WTF the Exchequer is doing taking the financial risk attached to a particular Premier League football club's getting relegated.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Feb 18 11.53pm
Did any of you sign the hoc petition? They're breaching EU law with competitive advantage of this nature. COYP
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Did any of you sign the hoc petition?

They're breaching EU law with competitive advantage of this nature.

COYP

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chateauferret 05 Feb 18 12.01am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Did any of you sign the hoc petition? They're breaching EU law with competitive advantage of this nature. Answered my own question: it's because Boris Johnson was, and is, a bungling f***wit. [Link] It's as obvious an example of a state aid as I've ever heard of and one which quite clearly DG IV ought to have stopped dead in its tracks. ============ The Ferret ============
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05 Feb 18 12.01am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Did any of you sign the hoc petition?

They're breaching EU law with competitive advantage of this nature.

Answered my own question: it's because Boris Johnson was, and is, a bungling f***wit.

[Link]

It's as obvious an example of a state aid as I've ever heard of and one which quite clearly DG IV ought to have stopped dead in its tracks.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 18 12.09am
Originally posted by chateauferret Answered my own question: it's because Boris Johnson was, and is, a bungling fwit.* [Link] It's as obvious an example of a state aid as I've ever heard of and one which quite clearly DG IV ought to have stopped dead in its tracks. The mistakes belonged to Khan’s Labour predecessor Ken Livingstone and the Blair government. Signing off on a stadium fit only for athletics was a massive 'Faux pas'. The only option for Boris Johnson was conversion to a multi-use venue. If Sadiq Khan wants to try and blame someone he should blame his Labour chums and the old Labour Mayor for their catastrophic planning failures. Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 18 12.09am

Originally posted by chateauferret

Answered my own question: it's because Boris Johnson was, and is, a bungling f***wit.

[Link]

It's as obvious an example of a state aid as I've ever heard of and one which quite clearly DG IV ought to have stopped dead in its tracks.

The mistakes belonged to Khan’s Labour predecessor Ken Livingstone and the Blair government. Signing off on a stadium fit only for athletics was a massive 'Faux pas'. The only option for Boris Johnson was conversion to a multi-use venue. If Sadiq Khan wants to try and blame someone he should blame his Labour chums and the old Labour Mayor for their catastrophic planning failures.

Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 18 12.18am
Originally posted by Willo The mistakes belonged to Khan’s Labour predecessor Ken Livingstone and the Blair government. Signing off on a stadium fit only for athletics was a massive 'Faux pas'. The only option for Boris Johnson was conversion to a multi-use venue. If Sadiq Khan wants to try and blame someone he should blame his Labour chums and the old Labour Mayor for their catastrophic planning failures. Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am) I'm apolitical although possibly leaning a bit right of centre and Karren Brady did deals with Conservative bods. It stinks. It should be addressed. COYP
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Caterham 05 Feb 18 12.18am

Originally posted by Willo

Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am)

I'm apolitical although possibly leaning a bit right of centre and Karren Brady did deals with Conservative bods. It stinks. It should be addressed.

COYP

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Islington Eagle North of the River 05 Feb 18 3.58pm
Originally posted by Willo The mistakes belonged to Khan’s Labour predecessor Ken Livingstone and the Blair government. Signing off on a stadium fit only for athletics was a massive 'Faux pas'. The only option for Boris Johnson was conversion to a multi-use venue. If Sadiq Khan wants to try and blame someone he should blame his Labour chums and the old Labour Mayor for their catastrophic planning failures. Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am) Sorry - this is nonsense. The original plan was great. To take the top level off and create a community athletics stadium on the site. Suitable for national championships and such like. Boris complained that this would be a white elephant and would cost £1m per year to maintain. So he instead spent £300m on coverting it to a multi use stadium. You do the maths...... This was a Tory stitch up to help out Baroness Brady. They pay £3m a year. Got all the income from selling their old ground for development. They will have their rent reduced if they get relegated - and are therefore protected from financial risk by the taxpayer. They receive some of the income from the retail at the venue. Pay very little of the running costs. This was a giant Boris f$*k up to go with the Emirates airline, the garden bridge, Fire and police stations sold off to his developer friends, the orbit Slide, Boris island airport, The rubbish and expensive new routemasters, caving in to developers on the proportion of affordable housing as part of mixed developments. Sadly the man loved a vanity project and it usually ended up costing us millions. Palace Fan
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Originally posted by Willo

Anyhow this is all getting very political and moving away from the subject matter of the current stadium as a football venue.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 12.11am)

Sorry - this is nonsense.
The original plan was great. To take the top level off and create a community athletics stadium on the site. Suitable for national championships and such like. Boris complained that this would be a white elephant and would cost £1m per year to maintain. So he instead spent £300m on coverting it to a multi use stadium. You do the maths......
This was a Tory stitch up to help out Baroness Brady. They pay £3m a year. Got all the income from selling their old ground for development. They will have their rent reduced if they get relegated - and are therefore protected from financial risk by the taxpayer. They receive some of the income from the retail at the venue. Pay very little of the running costs.
This was a giant Boris f$*k up to go with the Emirates airline, the garden bridge, Fire and police stations sold off to his developer friends, the orbit Slide, Boris island airport, The rubbish and expensive new routemasters, caving in to developers on the proportion of affordable housing as part of mixed developments.
Sadly the man loved a vanity project and it usually ended up costing us millions.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Feb 18 6.21pm
Originally posted by Islington Eagle Sorry - this is nonsense. The original plan was great. To take the top level off and create a community athletics stadium on the site. Suitable for national championships and such like. Boris complained that this would be a white elephant and would cost £1m per year to maintain. So he instead spent £300m on coverting it to a multi use stadium. You do the maths...... This was a Tory stitch up to help out Baroness Brady. They pay £3m a year. Got all the income from selling their old ground for development. They will have their rent reduced if they get relegated - and are therefore protected from financial risk by the taxpayer. They receive some of the income from the retail at the venue. Pay very little of the running costs. This was a giant Boris f$*k up to go with the Emirates airline, the garden bridge, Fire and police stations sold off to his developer friends, the orbit Slide, Boris island airport, The rubbish and expensive new routemasters, caving in to developers on the proportion of affordable housing as part of mixed developments. Sadly the man loved a vanity project and it usually ended up costing us millions. Indeed!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 05 Feb 18 6.21pm

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

Indeed!

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