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eag-les Flag Coulsdon 27 Jan 18 9.14pm Send a Private Message to eag-les Add eag-les as a friend

There is no one out there to replace our Wilf

 


If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong

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srh Flag london 28 Jan 18 1.08pm Send a Private Message to srh Add srh as a friend

Originally posted by beak

....and you know this because?????

Because Parish won't sell him. The Club want to build the team around Zaha and they will make a couple of quality signings to match Zaha's ambition. Plus Wilf is happy at CPFC.

 

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mattteo Flag 31 Jan 18 3.14pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Update:
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I'd hijack (offer Lee Chung Yeong as replacement, maybe they'll bite)! )

In all seriousness, if he doesn't go to Southampton this winter, a serious look must be kept on this guy. IF Zaha does leave in the summer, I believe efforts should be made to sign him. He's the best option I see.

Also, something funny about Promes, to lighten up the mood:
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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 31 Jan 18 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Could he take Townsends place if he was to go to Leicester...?

 

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mattteo Flag 31 Jan 18 5.33pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Could he take Townsends place if he was to go to Leicester...?


He's right footed so I don't think it would be quite the same. Quality players both of them though

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 31 Jan 18 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

He's right footed so I don't think it would be quite the same. Quality players both of them though

Thanks matteo this is what I was wondering.

Still if Leicester make us a silly offer maybe it's a stop gap, we'd be left with two good wingers although one playing out of position and then can sort another out in the summer.

Still think we could do with three quality wide players and selling Townsend for bucks and getting this lad in might help us get there.

Anyway can't see us selling Townsend let alone hijacking this move when we've obviously trying to seal so many other deals as well.

 

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 01 Feb 18 6.05pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

If its an attempt at humor you have done well however I'm afraid you believe it, and massively overestimate yourself again.

And oh yes, I would have an option: dead cheap for English standars as well: Youness Mokhtar from Zwolle. This is what disappointed me in de Boer, should have plucked some unproven, unknown gems from the Dutch league. Even if 1 out of 3 or 4 would have made it we would have done well.

Originally posted by mattteo

Yes, a good shout.Has a similar tenacity and determination as Zaha, runs a lot, likes to fight his opponent, but is more diminutive than the tall Wilf.
But he's not exactly a replacement for Zaha for 2 reasons:

1. As good as he's been in the Championship, he's not as good as Zaha in the PL.

2. He's left footed, which in my opinion would make him an exact competition for Townsend, not for Zaha.

He has been a starter this season for Newcastle. Has only lost the first 11 the last match I think, probably because Rafa Benitez doesn't even know he's their best assister this season.

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (01 Feb 2018 6.08pm)

 

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mattteo Flag 03 Feb 18 10.20am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Thanks matteo this is what I was wondering.

Still if Leicester make us a silly offer maybe it's a stop gap, we'd be left with two good wingers although one playing out of position and then can sort another out in the summer.

Still think we could do with three quality wide players and selling Townsend for bucks and getting this lad in might help us get there.

Anyway can't see us selling Townsend let alone hijacking this move when we've obviously trying to seal so many other deals as well.


Well, it's settled for now. He's not leaving till the summer. Depending on what pedigree Palace will have at the end of the season, the player could be hijacked. An 8-10 place finish should do it. He doesn't really fancy a move to a relegation threatened team.
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Finishing above Southampton should be a boost, as it would show better chances of staying in the PL next season.

Liverpool are waiting for this guy to have a full season in the Premier League before making their move. Getting him for 30 million and selling him for 70 would be a great investment in my opinion.

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matthau Flag South Croydon 06 Feb 18 1.33pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Look at the links below. Frank de Boer wanted him for us but we couldn’t afford him

 

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mattteo Flag 09 Feb 18 11.42am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

Look at the links below. Frank de Boer wanted him for us but we couldn’t afford him

Link missing, but I saw the interview online.

I was talking about buying Quicy Promes with the Zaha money (Zaha will probably cost around 50-60 million, therefore 30 for Promes could be possible).

If Promes is indeed too costly, I think there would be 1 more player who is cheap and could do exactly what Zaha does:

CRISTIAN TELLO- now with Betis, after Barca and Fiorentina, 26 yo, awesome build, in my opinion has been terrific with his playing time:
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4 goals and 4 assists for Betis in 1150 minutes
6 goals and 12 assists in 3200 minutes for Fiorentina (often deployed as wingback too)
9 goals and 11 assists for FC Porto in 2600 minutes

I'm not counting his time in Barcelona cause everyone gets to be spectacular there.

As of now, he's unhappy with his playing time in Betis. The club doesn't have Premier League financial power and would sell for around 8 million, after having bought him for only 4 last summer.

Another good option would be LUCAS OCAMPOS from Marseille- good built at 1,87, 23 yo:
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11 goals and 5 assists in 3500 minutes for Marseille
2 goals and 2 assists in 1400 minutes in Italy (Genoa and AC Milan)
He would cost somewhere around 11-12 million though.


Some more interesting very good right footed players from Spain (like Zaha), capable to play on both sides of the pitch:

IBAI GOMEZ, 1,78, 28 yo, formerly of Athletic Bilbao:
16 goals and 11 assists in his last 5000 minutes in La Liga
Very cheap


JAIRO SAMPERIO, shorter at 1,74, 24 yo, now with Las Palmas, recently moved from Mainz (incredibly low fee):
13 goals and 16 assists in his last 5900 minutes in the Bundesliga and La Liga

MOI GOMEZ, 1,76, 23 yo, formerly of Villareal and Getafe, now in first place in the Segunda Division with Huesca, on their way up to La Liga:
10 goals and 15 assists in his last 5600 minutes in La Liga.
Less in the second division and cup competitions though, 1 goals and 3 assists in 2000 minutes
Probably less valuable, but just 23

The Brazilian BRUNO HENRIQUE, now of Santos, formerly of Wolfsburg (they're sorry now they did not keep him), 1, 84 in height, 27 yo, probably the best winger in the Brazil Serie A:
11 goals and 13 assists in 3100 minutes last season
7 goals and 10 assists in the 2015 season too, in 2900 minutes
2 assists for Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga and the Champions League (wasn't given much playing time to settle in)
He'd cost less than scorers, as he mostly provides assists. Santos got him for 4 million from Wolfsburg.

So, TLDR: in case Zaha goes, I see Quincy Promes or Cristian Tello up for the task of replacing him. I'd bet my life that they can keep up the level.
In case Zaha stays and a backup is needed, all the above options+ Narsingh/ Ola John should come in handy.


Edited by mattteo (09 Feb 2018 5.08pm)

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 09 Feb 18 11.49am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Ever seen the movie. Moneyball. With brad Pitt? It’s all about him buying players purely based on their statistics rather than what you see on the field. So he buys nothing but lower league players that should win something cos of their stats. Rather than big time Charlie’s

Think you’ll like it

Based on a true story but in baseball not football

 

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mattteo Flag 09 Feb 18 12.52pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

Ever seen the movie. Moneyball. With brad Pitt? It’s all about him buying players purely based on their statistics rather than what you see on the field. So he buys nothing but lower league players that should win something cos of their stats. Rather than big time Charlie’s

Think you’ll like it

Based on a true story but in baseball not football

I saw the movie. I'm no Jonah Hill, I'm actually a normal looking man. I've just watched football a long time now to know that future numbers only slightly deviate from precedents. You won't make a league goalscorers out of a nobody and you won't have a deception if you buy a player who had been previously scoring constantly.

 

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