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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 17 Dec 17 11.57am
Not intended as a criticism thread but it's struck me that since they came in, CPFC2010 have a fairly steady record of alternating successful and poor managerial appointments. Burley - Total disaster. Freedman - Saved us from relegation, took us to the brink of promotion before sodding off. Success. Holloway - Won the playoffs but frankly we should have gone up automatically that season with the team we had and would have done if not for a single win in our final 10 games. Couldn't handle the Prem and left us in the relegation zone. Failure bar the playoffs. Pulis - Miracle escape before jumping ship with his bonus. Success. Warnock - Similarly poor as Holloway and left us with a mountain to climb. Failure. Pardew - Champions League form in his first calendar year, 20th place form in the second. Inherited Pulis' defensive organisation and added his own attacking verve. Once the organisation ebbed away we started leaking goals for fun. Nearly won the FA Cup, loses marks for terrible dancing. 1/2 Success, 1/2 failure. Allardyce - Another miracle escape, left us in more honourable circumstances staight after the season. Success. De Boer - One of the most shambolic appointments in English football history. Failure. Hodgson - After a slow start has turned us round and has got us on our longest unbeaten run since we've been in the Prem. Success. Anyone disagree with this? Harsh to label Holloway a failure? Based on the trend will we follow Hodgson with Joe Kinnear before appointing Guardiola? We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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Not intended as a criticism thread but it's struck me that since they came in, CPFC2010 have a fairly steady record of alternating successful and poor managerial appointments.

Burley - Total disaster.

Freedman - Saved us from relegation, took us to the brink of promotion before sodding off. Success.

Holloway - Won the playoffs but frankly we should have gone up automatically that season with the team we had and would have done if not for a single win in our final 10 games. Couldn't handle the Prem and left us in the relegation zone. Failure bar the playoffs.

Pulis - Miracle escape before jumping ship with his bonus. Success.

Warnock - Similarly poor as Holloway and left us with a mountain to climb. Failure.

Pardew - Champions League form in his first calendar year, 20th place form in the second. Inherited Pulis' defensive organisation and added his own attacking verve. Once the organisation ebbed away we started leaking goals for fun. Nearly won the FA Cup, loses marks for terrible dancing. 1/2 Success, 1/2 failure.

Allardyce - Another miracle escape, left us in more honourable circumstances staight after the season. Success.

De Boer - One of the most shambolic appointments in English football history. Failure.

Hodgson - After a slow start has turned us round and has got us on our longest unbeaten run since we've been in the Prem. Success.

Anyone disagree with this? Harsh to label Holloway a failure? Based on the trend will we follow Hodgson with Joe Kinnear before appointing Guardiola?

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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rollercoaster Cornwall 17 Dec 17 1.08pm
2010 have been tremendous for us. Yep, all the good things are just luck and all the bad things are their fault. Of course we ranted that Hodgson would be a disaster when we commented on the summer manager recruitment and everyone loved the De-Boer appointment, but really we all knew that 2010 had got it wrong. We all moaned like mad when De-Boer was sacked after 4 games but really we all knew that we were best shot of him and it was only luck that 2010 sacked him and quickly bought in Hodgson... Yes their long term planning could be a lot better but there is absolutely no way that any of us who comment on these boards could have done a better overall job than they have since they bought the club. Edited by rollercoaster (17 Dec 2017 1.08pm)
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Cornwall 17 Dec 17 1.08pm

2010 have been tremendous for us.
Yep, all the good things are just luck and all the bad things are their fault.
Of course we ranted that Hodgson would be a disaster when we commented on the summer manager recruitment and everyone loved the De-Boer appointment, but really we all knew that 2010 had got it wrong. We all moaned like mad when De-Boer was sacked after 4 games but really we all knew that we were best shot of him and it was only luck that 2010 sacked him and quickly bought in Hodgson...

Yes their long term planning could be a lot better but there is absolutely no way that any of us who comment on these boards could have done a better overall job than they have since they bought the club.

Edited by rollercoaster (17 Dec 2017 1.08pm)

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chateauferret 17 Dec 17 1.53pm
TBF I expected de Boer to be decent and Hodgson to be s^^^e. And de Boer turned out to be a total basket case and Hodgson has been excellent. Edited by chateauferret (17 Dec 2017 1.54pm) ============ The Ferret ============
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TBF I expected de Boer to be decent and Hodgson to be s^^^e. And de Boer turned out to be a total basket case and Hodgson has been excellent.

Edited by chateauferret (17 Dec 2017 1.54pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 17 2.02pm
Originally posted by chateauferret TBF I expected de Boer to be decent and Hodgson to be s^^^e. And de Boer turned out to be a total basket case and Hodgson has been excellent. Edited by chateauferret (17 Dec 2017 1.54pm) I spoke to some Fulham supporters after Hodgson was appointed and they were fulsome in their praise of him.I spoke to one of the chaps yesterday after the Leicester game and he reminded me about what he had said to me about Hodgson. Edited by Willo (17 Dec 2017 2.04pm)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 17 2.02pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

TBF I expected de Boer to be decent and Hodgson to be s^^^e. And de Boer turned out to be a total basket case and Hodgson has been excellent.

Edited by chateauferret (17 Dec 2017 1.54pm)

I spoke to some Fulham supporters after Hodgson was appointed and they were fulsome in their praise of him.I spoke to one of the chaps yesterday after the Leicester game and he reminded me about what he had said to me about Hodgson.

Edited by Willo (17 Dec 2017 2.04pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Dec 17 2.21pm
Originally posted by rollercoaster 2010 have been tremendous for us. Yep, all the good things are just luck and all the bad things are their fault. Of course we ranted that Hodgson would be a disaster when we commented on the summer manager recruitment and everyone loved the De-Boer appointment, but really we all knew that 2010 had got it wrong. We all moaned like mad when De-Boer was sacked after 4 games but really we all knew that we were best shot of him and it was only luck that 2010 sacked him and quickly bought in Hodgson... Yes their long term planning could be a lot better but there is absolutely no way that any of us who comment on these boards could have done a better overall job than they have since they bought the club. Edited by rollercoaster (17 Dec 2017 1.08pm) That wasn't luck. Parish either made the call or the Americans did. Hard to tell going by Parish's tweets just after Burnley away and the day before Frank was sacked. But Parish made himself open to criticism from the whole football world and probably calculated it as at the worst a slightly a better chance of survival over the whole season than Frank. Roy didn't expect us to get out of the bottom 3 until a lot later, we don't have a striker v Swansea and next its Arsenal and Man City. We're also 1 injury to Zaha and Benteke away from relegation form. Parish gets it right after getting it so badly wrong recently so I hope football people plan ahead and Parish goes by their advice. No doubt freedman and Roy at least. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 17 Dec 17 2.21pm

Originally posted by rollercoaster

2010 have been tremendous for us.
Yep, all the good things are just luck and all the bad things are their fault.
Of course we ranted that Hodgson would be a disaster when we commented on the summer manager recruitment and everyone loved the De-Boer appointment, but really we all knew that 2010 had got it wrong. We all moaned like mad when De-Boer was sacked after 4 games but really we all knew that we were best shot of him and it was only luck that 2010 sacked him and quickly bought in Hodgson...

Yes their long term planning could be a lot better but there is absolutely no way that any of us who comment on these boards could have done a better overall job than they have since they bought the club.

Edited by rollercoaster (17 Dec 2017 1.08pm)

That wasn't luck. Parish either made the call or the Americans did.

Hard to tell going by Parish's tweets just after Burnley away and the day before Frank was sacked. But Parish made himself open to criticism from the whole football world and probably calculated it as at the worst a slightly a better chance of survival over the whole season than Frank. Roy didn't expect us to get out of the bottom 3 until a lot later, we don't have a striker v Swansea and next its Arsenal and Man City. We're also 1 injury to Zaha and Benteke away from relegation form.

Parish gets it right after getting it so badly wrong recently so I hope football people plan ahead and Parish goes by their advice. No doubt freedman and Roy at least.

COYP

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jeeagles 17 Dec 17 4.01pm
In England I think fans of most clubs are overly critical of managers. You've got to judge appointments on the circumstances at the time and based on what they were expected to do. We've had a lost of good/ok managers, but great miracle working managers are very few and far between. Burley didn't work out, but our prospects were pretty dire when we appointed him. There weren't many managers who'd take on the job. Freedman and Warnock both got the job because no one else wanted it. Holloway and Pardew were both scalps at the time. Holloways job was to get us promoted, Pardews was to keep us up. Both Were successful. Pulis and BFS did exactly what was required of them before jumping ship. If Pardew would have left at the end of his first season I think people would have a higher opinion of him. FDB was the only real failure and they nipped that in the bud rapidly.
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17 Dec 17 4.01pm

In England I think fans of most clubs are overly critical of managers. You've got to judge appointments on the circumstances at the time and based on what they were expected to do. We've had a lost of good/ok managers, but great miracle working managers are very few and far between.

Burley didn't work out, but our prospects were pretty dire when we appointed him. There weren't many managers who'd take on the job.
Freedman and Warnock both got the job because no one else wanted it.
Holloway and Pardew were both scalps at the time. Holloways job was to get us promoted, Pardews was to keep us up. Both Were successful.

Pulis and BFS did exactly what was required of them before jumping ship. If Pardew would have left at the end of his first season I think people would have a higher opinion of him.

FDB was the only real failure and they nipped that in the bud rapidly.

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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 17 Dec 17 4.06pm
Originally posted by jeeagles In England I think fans of most clubs are overly critical of managers. You've got to judge appointments on the circumstances at the time and based on what they were expected to do. We've had a lost of good/ok managers, but great miracle working managers are very few and far between. Burley didn't work out, but our prospects were pretty dire when we appointed him. There weren't many managers who'd take on the job. Freedman and Warnock both got the job because no one else wanted it. Holloway and Pardew were both scalps at the time. Holloways job was to get us promoted, Pardews was to keep us up. Both Were successful. Pulis and BFS did exactly what was required of them before jumping ship. If Pardew would have left at the end of his first season I think people would have a higher opinion of him. FDB was the only real failure and they nipped that in the bud rapidly. I think this is a good point. One thing you can certainly say is that every time a manager has got us into a poor position, they've appointed the best possible manager available at the time to get us out of it, even this season, and it's worked every time. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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Originally posted by jeeagles

In England I think fans of most clubs are overly critical of managers. You've got to judge appointments on the circumstances at the time and based on what they were expected to do. We've had a lost of good/ok managers, but great miracle working managers are very few and far between.

Pulis and BFS did exactly what was required of them before jumping ship. If Pardew would have left at the end of his first season I think people would have a higher opinion of him.

FDB was the only real failure and they nipped that in the bud rapidly.

I think this is a good point. One thing you can certainly say is that every time a manager has got us into a poor position, they've appointed the best possible manager available at the time to get us out of it, even this season, and it's worked every time.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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