My point is that gaffes have been a feature of the team this season, not just of the goalkeepers, and something they all need to address. The fluffed scoring chances are the same problem: haste, poor composure, iffy decision-making.

Well someone doesn't like Hennesey or maybe Speroni but the "mistake" is just an excuse, and individual errors have been made by Wilf, Tekers, Milivojevic, Ward, Lee, van Aanholt, even Sakho FFS. The "mistake" isn't the problem, it's being used as an excuse to have a go when the real point is that the poster in question thinks the player is "generally cr@p". OTOH I can't think of any obvious error made by Puncheon but is it not the majority view that he is at least currently on poor form?

If he wants to say "Speroni / Hennesey / Dann etc. is s***e" let him, and let him back it up with evidence, but that one error, or any other, is not in itself evidence that a player is no good. Especially when we have a team-wide issue with individual errors which can be addressed by working on mentality, confidence, discipline and decision-making rather than by dropping one error-prone player and replacing him with another.

Well someone doesn't like Hennesey or maybe Speroni but the "mistake" is just an excuse, and individual errors have been made by Wilf, Tekers, Milivojevic, Ward, Lee, van Aanholt, even Sakho FFS. The "mistake" isn't the problem, it's being used as an excuse to have a go when the real point is that the poster in question thinks the player is "generally cr@p". OTOH I can't think of any obvious error made by Puncheon but is it not the majority view that he is at least currently on poor form?

If he wants to say "Speroni / Hennesey / Dann etc. is s***e" let him, and let him back it up with evidence, but that one error, or any other, is not in itself evidence that a player is no good. Especially when we have a team-wide issue with individual errors which can be addressed by working on mentality, confidence, discipline and decision-making rather than by dropping one error-prone player and replacing him with another.

Ah, but they are arguing that Hennesey is "generally cr@p", aren't they? He just doesn't happen to have been involved in a shambles like that goal last week. Doesn't mean it isn't a reasonable argument (although it isn't one with which I myself agree).

It is correct though that going on and on about it is futile. We should get behind whomever is selected because if there's one thing that's bound to make someone make a mistake it's getting on his back when he's trying to play football.

And Hodgson isn't stupid enough to drop a player pour encourager les autres.

Edited by chateauferret (25 Nov 2017 10.23am)

It is also a reasonable thing to say that people should be even handed and admit that their favourite made a horrendous b*lls up as they would, without any doubt say, if Hennessey made the same error.

In all my years of supporting palace, I've never know anything like this hennessey /speroni debate. It's absolutely ridiculous. Hennessey had his chance and made mistakes, speronis now got his chance and has made mistakes too. Everyone agrees wecneed a new keeper, but this constant analysis and argument after every game is just getting boring now and should stop. Meanwhile, Benteke, who couldn't even hit the target from 12 yards with only the goalkeeper to beat gets away with very little critism. ....