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The Dolphin Flag 30 Oct 17 1.00pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

One thing that struck me having watched the highlights time and again since Saturday - and it strikes me nearly every game I might add - is the space that our full backs give to their wide players.
Football is a relatively simple game in many respects and "marking your man" is right up there with the simple rules.
Ward had no need to get sucked in on Saturday - I have watched it over and again and he should have been out wide in which case they would possibly not have scored.
At the back we are disorganised hence their attack being free so often.
Whose fault - who knows - but in the old days when I played the leader at the back or the Keeper would tell you where to go (if it wasn't obvious) and you went!
Too often nowadays there are three men on one in the middle when the oposition attack us when really the spare should be marking elsewhere.
If you give these wide players time they will get the ball in to the middle and cause you problems as was the case against West Ham.
We need to organise and stop ball watching!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Oct 17 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

One thing that struck me having watched the highlights time and again since Saturday - and it strikes me nearly every game I might add - is the space that our full backs give to their wide players.
Football is a relatively simple game in many respects and "marking your man" is right up there with the simple rules.
Ward had no need to get sucked in on Saturday - I have watched it over and again and he should have been out wide in which case they would possibly not have scored.
At the back we are disorganised hence their attack being free so often.
Whose fault - who knows - but in the old days when I played the leader at the back or the Keeper would tell you where to go (if it wasn't obvious) and you went!
Too often nowadays there are three men on one in the middle when the oposition attack us when really the spare should be marking elsewhere.
If you give these wide players time they will get the ball in to the middle and cause you problems as was the case against West Ham.
We need to organise and stop ball watching!

I understand what you are stating regarding full-backs being drawn to the middle, however sometimes teams are organised so that there is little space to play through the middle and as such are content to allow spaces on the flanks believing that they can defend crosses against strikers whose prowess is not their aerial threat.Carroll wasn't playing so maybe our full backs were instructed to play more centrally to give more protection through the middle.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Oct 17 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I understand what you are stating regarding full-backs being drawn to the middle, however sometimes teams are organised so that there is little space to play through the middle and as such are content to allow spaces on the flanks believing that they can defend crosses against strikers whose prowess is not their aerial threat.Carroll wasn't playing so maybe our full backs were instructed to play more centrally to give more protection through the middle.

Agreed to an extent, however the space available to run into in this case extended right into the box and he could have taken on the ball and shot himself, but opted to cross.

I can't agree as a rule that defences should play narrow. If you look at the number of goals scored at this level, there is a high number being scored by wingers/wing backs cutting the ball back from out wide for strikers to run onto. Did we perhaps miss Sakho? Whenever Sakho has played, Ward has appeared to play better and is that because Sakho is telling him where to go? I really don't know the answer to that question without analysing the games in which they have both started, but have definitely seen an improvement in Ward when he is on the pitch.

 

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paperhat Flag croydon 30 Oct 17 2.56pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Agreed to an extent, however the space available to run into in this case extended right into the box and he could have taken on the ball and shot himself, but opted to cross.

I can't agree as a rule that defences should play narrow. If you look at the number of goals scored at this level, there is a high number being scored by wingers/wing backs cutting the ball back from out wide for strikers to run onto. Did we perhaps miss Sakho? Whenever Sakho has played, Ward has appeared to play better and is that because Sakho is telling him where to go? I really don't know the answer to that question without analysing the games in which they have both started, but have definitely seen an improvement in Ward when he is on the pitch.

sakho would have been there to take out Ayew after he'd turned Ward inside out

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 30 Oct 17 5.29pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Think a few will tell you I take no prisoners and I speak as I find. You sir are a cactus. Better to be thought an idiot than speak and remove all doubt.

Keep quiet then! ?A cactus? Really? What does that even mean?

 

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greenbrook_ Flag Croydon 30 Oct 17 9.11pm Send a Private Message to greenbrook_ Add greenbrook_ as a friend

My views of the game here: [Link]

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 17 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by greenbrook_

My views of the game here: [Link]

Only listened to the Zaha and spot on analysis on the 2 goals conceded. Thought I didn't know what I was talking about for about 3 seconds yesterday. Just add that you can make a player go in one direction or stay on one foot by staying on the other side of centre you speak of. Makes it easier to time your tackle. Happens all the time outside of the area, and will do to our players but apparently it's not an option for our players.

Not sure on your player ratings. Bl00dy bell they tight. I dread to think what you'd give West Ham players. Maybe I'd have to know what you give our players right after another game to compare but blimey they're low. Wouldn't go down well on here so you'd expect some censoring.

 


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