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FinchleyEagle 17 Oct 17 8.59pm
Originally posted by JRW2 Fine, but what about the message it sends to the others who work hard, do their jobs and play well (in training) - and who may actually be a better choice than the incumbent? A fair question, but it's all about getting in the side. Once you've made it, for whatever reason, then you're in for as long as you play well and/or the team does well. If someone misses a game and they lose their place because the team wins and everyone plays well, that's a much better message than 'ok you did everything I asked when you came in, but Ruben's much better so you're out' I reckon. The former shows the player he must work hard and wait for his chance, the latter tells the player that the other guy will always be picked which will kill his motivation. Being manager requires a careful balance of many things, not least keeping the whole squad motivated. You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue Yours sincerely Mile Jedinak
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17 Oct 17 8.59pm

Originally posted by JRW2

Fine, but what about the message it sends to the others who work hard, do their jobs and play well (in training) - and who may actually be a better choice than the incumbent?

A fair question, but it's all about getting in the side. Once you've made it, for whatever reason, then you're in for as long as you play well and/or the team does well.

If someone misses a game and they lose their place because the team wins and everyone plays well, that's a much better message than 'ok you did everything I asked when you came in, but Ruben's much better so you're out' I reckon. The former shows the player he must work hard and wait for his chance, the latter tells the player that the other guy will always be picked which will kill his motivation.

Being manager requires a careful balance of many things, not least keeping the whole squad motivated.

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak

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BlackBallsEagle Maidstone 17 Oct 17 9.18pm
Originally posted by chateauferret Why not? We should be playing our in form players not necessarily our most expensive. If he isn't giving us what we need, play men who are. I say it like it is...........And say, I read a post and if it gets finished in my opinion is an interesting, fair, logical post or response, then I usually look at the name..............and to be fair mate, in my opinion you have a lot of good things to say Big Up
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Originally posted by chateauferret

Why not? We should be playing our in form players not necessarily our most expensive. If he isn't giving us what we need, play men who are.

I say it like it is...........And say, I read a post and if it gets finished in my opinion is an interesting, fair, logical post or response, then I usually look at the name..............and to be fair mate, in my opinion you have a lot of good things to say

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chateauferret 17 Oct 17 11.16pm
Originally posted by FinchleyEagle A fair question, but it's all about getting in the side. Once you've made it, for whatever reason, then you're in for as long as you play well and/or the team does well. If someone misses a game and they lose their place because the team wins and everyone plays well, that's a much better message than 'ok you did everything I asked when you came in, but Ruben's much better so you're out' I reckon. The former shows the player he must work hard and wait for his chance, the latter tells the player that the other guy will always be picked which will kill his motivation. Being manager requires a careful balance of many things, not least keeping the whole squad motivated. Yes, but there are some other variables, and what comes to my mind is the idea of horses for courses: is a given defence more susceptible to fast movement and change, or is it poorly equipped to deal with a big man banging in headers from crosses? Will we have to concede possession or will they cede possession to us? Is the other team predominantly skilful, like Citeh, or physical, like Huddersfield? And so on. ============ The Ferret ============
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17 Oct 17 11.16pm

Originally posted by FinchleyEagle

A fair question, but it's all about getting in the side. Once you've made it, for whatever reason, then you're in for as long as you play well and/or the team does well.

Being manager requires a careful balance of many things, not least keeping the whole squad motivated.

Yes, but there are some other variables, and what comes to my mind is the idea of horses for courses: is a given defence more susceptible to fast movement and change, or is it poorly equipped to deal with a big man banging in headers from crosses? Will we have to concede possession or will they cede possession to us? Is the other team predominantly skilful, like Citeh, or physical, like Huddersfield? And so on.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Oct 17 2.05am
It's difficult. JimmyMac had a great game , his no look pass to AT for the first goal was absolute quality. Cabaye had an excellent game, somehow he seemed a bit fitter, previous games this year he was often second to the ball and gave away a lot of fouls. RLC is a real quality player who should be starting. Punch is as already said going to be a squad player now. Originally posted by Aray Well, well overdue. But Punch was never a central midfielder - play him on the the left where his one-footedness doesn't hold him back as much. Or if needed play him as a No. 10 - that worked for a while. But we have several players better in the centre of the park. As for Benteke...Lets see how long our current set up works for before we write him off. He will have to be a lot hungrier to get back in the side if we can repeat Saturday's performance. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 18 Oct 17 2.05am

It's difficult.

JimmyMac had a great game , his no look pass to AT for the first goal was absolute quality.

Cabaye had an excellent game, somehow he seemed a bit fitter, previous games this year he was often second to the ball and gave away a lot of fouls.

RLC is a real quality player who should be starting.

Punch is as already said going to be a squad player now.

Originally posted by Aray

Well, well overdue. But Punch was never a central midfielder - play him on the the left where his one-footedness doesn't hold him back as much. Or if needed play him as a No. 10 - that worked for a while. But we have several players better in the centre of the park.

As for Benteke...Lets see how long our current set up works for before we write him off. He will have to be a lot hungrier to get back in the side if we can repeat Saturday's performance.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Oct 17 2.08am
just seen this and agree, Schulpp out RLC in Still concerned PVA thinks he is a forward and we need extra cover on left, Wilf did that against Chelsea Originally posted by eag-les Without a shadow should be the same as Saturday but with RLC in for Jeffrey. Great setup and the best ive seen for a long time Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 18 Oct 17 2.08am

just seen this and agree, Schulpp out RLC in

Still concerned PVA thinks he is a forward and we need extra cover on left, Wilf did that against Chelsea

Originally posted by eag-les

Without a shadow should be the same as Saturday but with RLC in for Jeffrey. Great setup and the best ive seen for a long time

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Loz83 Crawley 18 Oct 17 10.10am
Originally posted by FinchleyEagle You should always stick with a winning team when the performance is good. Sends the right message to everyone that if they work hard, do their jobs and play well, they play the following week. I agree, there’s no harm in having rlc on the bench if he’s been injured, he’s an option if things aren’t going well and also puts pressure on others to perform. Same as fosu mensah, Ward knows he has to perform now as he has competition!
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Crawley 18 Oct 17 10.10am

Originally posted by FinchleyEagle

You should always stick with a winning team when the performance is good. Sends the right message to everyone that if they work hard, do their jobs and play well, they play the following week.

I agree, there’s no harm in having rlc on the bench if he’s been injured, he’s an option if things aren’t going well and also puts pressure on others to perform. Same as fosu mensah, Ward knows he has to perform now as he has competition!

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Nobbybm Dartford 18 Oct 17 12.46pm
Originally posted by Sansbup Of course, none of us know how long Bentekkers has been carrying his injury, prior to it actually needing his absence... as we all know, he's looked off the pace for weeks before going awol and the club aren't going to,admit he's carrying an injury, are they. I doubt we'll ever really know. His knee was taped for both the Citeh & Man U games but that doesn't mean that was the start of it. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 18 Oct 17 12.46pm

Originally posted by Sansbup

Of course, none of us know how long Bentekkers has been carrying his injury, prior to it actually needing his absence... as we all know, he's looked off the pace for weeks before going awol and the club aren't going to,admit he's carrying an injury, are they.

I doubt we'll ever really know. His knee was taped for both the Citeh & Man U games but that doesn't mean that was the start of it.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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matthau South Croydon 18 Oct 17 1.18pm
Yes you stick with a winning team, and if a player plays well he shouldn't be dropped, however, the counter that, I remember Marriapa played well when called upon, when Ward was suspended or injured, or one of our CBs, but poor ol' Marriapa was forever dropped soon as one of our regulars was back and fit. Point was, they were better players, or at least management thought so at the time. Its a hard one.
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South Croydon 18 Oct 17 1.18pm

Yes you stick with a winning team, and if a player plays well he shouldn't be dropped, however, the counter that, I remember Marriapa played well when called upon, when Ward was suspended or injured, or one of our CBs, but poor ol' Marriapa was forever dropped soon as one of our regulars was back and fit. Point was, they were better players, or at least management thought so at the time.

Its a hard one.

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pstrutt Busselton, WA 18 Oct 17 4.55pm
If RLC has been out injured then we should stick with the same team and bring him for a twenty to thirty minutes at the end to get more fitness. Jeff seems to be the obvious player to be replaced, but that depends on the game. Changes also depend on the closeness on the game (IMHO). Also, is closeness a word? So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.
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Busselton, WA 18 Oct 17 4.55pm

If RLC has been out injured then we should stick with the same team and bring him for a twenty to thirty minutes at the end to get more fitness. Jeff seems to be the obvious player to be replaced, but that depends on the game. Changes also depend on the closeness on the game (IMHO). Also, is closeness a word?

So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

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