I'm sure they sift through the tweets/Instagram comments they've been getting for the last month though. You can sit there and say people are self serving thought police all you like but don't claim to be a supporter and boo the team whilst trying to implement a style from the gaffer because "it's not the palace way". Yeah cos that Palace way has left us in an exemplary place hasn't it.

The problem is, I've seen a side to Palace fans this season that is different than I've ever seen and it's f***ing embarrassing. We're not the best fans at all, were a bunch of whiney shortsighted know it alls with a losers mindset who think that booing players and staff is a good way of achieving success after 3 games.

Our fans have a massive problem with ambition and are all too happy to accept our lot. I've said this so many times, if Frank were to fail at his job then he'd fail, Parish has shown consistent ruthlessness and he'll no doubt show it again if necessary but in my opinion, and no doubt the majority will hound me and disagree with me for this but I genuinely believe this - we as fans have already decided that whatever he wants to do will not be accepted or tolerated and the writing is already on the wall. The effect we have on the team is not to be understated and before people give me the BS about today, and it was shocking first half I'm not saying it wasn't, but this begun before we even kicked a ball in pre-season and there were so many that were literally just itching for us to lose so they could make their poisonous bulls*** well heard and justified, sad and pathetic.

If you're gonna try a new style, everyone has to buy into it and you have to go for it wholeheartedly - otherwise it's pointless and even more damaging. Please explain to me how on earth the players who "can't play football" apparently are ever going to be comfortable i possession when in the back of their mind they have full knowledge that they are one wrong pass away from 75% of the ground whining like little girls.

I'm not defending today's performance or Frank but for me a big part of his demise will be down to the fact that the fans were never willing to get behind the idea of actually improving our style of play. The writings been on the wall from day one.

Edited by Mstrobez (26 Aug 2017 11.51pm)

I can guarantee you we won't be talking about Europe this season.

In Frank's defence the 2nd goal was an abysmal error by Kelly and the game is likely to be finished. The 1st I'd have to see again. Probably a case of defence not getting being focused and sharp and tight to the opposition. To let a goal in on HT is tough and shyte at the same time.

But there are blatantly obvious players in the wrong positions in a 3-4-3.

Ward. Where do you start?

PVA. Just passes inside and back. At least v Huddersfield he could say he was being closed down quickly. Not vs Swansea. Nobody near him and it goes back.

Kelly in a back 3. Oh my god.

Having ward at lb in the 2nd half? Was PVA injured or was Frank p1ssed with his pathetic performance? Why wasn't Schlupp brought on? Ward's being right footed left crosses not made and slowed anything down.

Punch starting?

Buying Riederwald to play 3-4-3. The errors are just

I'm sure they sift through the tweets/Instagram comments they've been getting for the last month though. You can sit there and say people are self serving thought police all you like but don't claim to be a supporter and boo the team whilst trying to implement a style from the gaffer because "it's not the palace way". Yeah cos that Palace way has left us in an exemplary place hasn't it.

The problem is, I've seen a side to Palace fans this season that is different than I've ever seen and it's f***ing embarrassing. We're not the best fans at all, were a bunch of whiney shortsighted know it alls with a losers mindset who think that booing players and staff is a good way of achieving success after 3 games.

Our fans have a massive problem with ambition and are all too happy to accept our lot. I've said this so many times, if Frank were to fail at his job then he'd fail, Parish has shown consistent ruthlessness and he'll no doubt show it again if necessary but in my opinion, and no doubt the majority will hound me and disagree with me for this but I genuinely believe this - we as fans have already decided that whatever he wants to do will not be accepted or tolerated and the writing is already on the wall. The effect we have on the team is not to be understated and before people give me the BS about today, and it was shocking first half I'm not saying it wasn't, but this begun before we even kicked a ball in pre-season and there were so many that were literally just itching for us to lose so they could make their poisonous bulls*** well heard and justified, sad and pathetic.

If you're gonna try a new style, everyone has to buy into it and you have to go for it wholeheartedly - otherwise it's pointless and even more damaging. Please explain to me how on earth the players who "can't play football" apparently are ever going to be comfortable i possession when in the back of their mind they have full knowledge that they are one wrong pass away from 75% of the ground whining like little girls.

I'm not defending today's performance or Frank but for me a big part of his demise will be down to the fact that the fans were never willing to get behind the idea of actually improving our style of play. The writings been on the wall from day one.

Edited by Mstrobez (26 Aug 2017 11.51pm)

OP- I won't call you a f***ing c*** because you are clearly a few biscuits short of the tin.

It's not abuse as I highly doubt FdB or SP sift through these posts it is people venting a lot of anger with real justification.

People like you are the worst possible for this club ATM, people don't support Palace glory hunting we all do so because it's part of who we are and we will carry on supporting the team irregardless.

The same way we have the opposition party to the government to keep it in check people need to speak out against the current nonsense and again are entitled to.

What we do not need is the self serving thought police (you).

Again have no idea what you are getting at.

You literally only posted before to tell me I had only been watching Palace for 7/8 years and that meant I had "no idea" - yes a quote and now you are saying you have seen twice as many games in the lower tiers than in the top tier.

Just for fun, I have been watching Palace for almost exactly 26 years and have seen a far higher proportion of lower league games than premier league but again I would say this is irrelevant and if old boys want to make it a pissing contest on here about how long they've been watching Palace for fine I can't stop you and don't really care but stop commenting on my posts because I find that f***ing boring.