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rattus2002 Flag 24 Jan 18 4.55pm Send a Private Message to rattus2002 Add rattus2002 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes and all were, still are, and probably will always be better than Frank. Your point might not involve them but back then they and the selections were the issue.

Let's just hope we're more prepared for the next walk outs or 'sackings' because we certainly weren't when Sam walked and we definitely missed out or didn't want the better ones who some are now describing as god damn awful yet we hired a complete charlatan who nearly destroyed us.

I am not sure that people think he is an awful manager. What most people are questioning is this proven premier league pedigree that was often touted about Silva at the time when we were looking for a manager. When Silva was interviewed for the Hull job he would have been tasked with keeping them up. Ultimately he failed, was it a dismal failure, no. But he did fail to achieve the overall objective.

Whilst injuries & missed chances against Sunderland can be examined as 2 causes for the failure, he would of also been responsible for how they setup from corners (from which they continued to concede plenty) and the failure to seemingly be able motivate the players for the Selhurst game after losing to Sunderland.

As was discussed at the time, there is no actual evidence that Parish refused to return from his holiday and that Silva was available, its all conjecture. He may well have already agreed the deal with Watford as it was announced pretty quickly after the season. I am sure he will probably at some time get the opportunity to return to the premier league but I would imagine that the current set of chairmen will be extremely wary given his obvious wish to use clubs as quick stepping stones. Perhaps a stint in Europe for a few years would be best.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 24 Jan 18 5.46pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes and all were, still are, and probably will always be better than Frank. Your point might not involve them but back then they and the selections were the issue.

Let's just hope we're more prepared for the next walk outs or 'sackings' because we certainly weren't when Sam walked and we definitely missed out or didn't want the better ones who some are now describing as god damn awful yet we hired a complete charlatan who nearly destroyed us.

Yes we agree on that .
That's what I really don't get . The people wringing their hands and calling us a joke and berating Parish for sacking him after 4 games.
We were lucky he recognised his mistake , which was obvious even in pre season and had the courage to put it right as soon as possible.
We are not out of the woods yet but who would have thought we had a chance after the start Frank constructed.

 

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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 24 Jan 18 5.53pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by rattus2002

I am sure he will probably at some time get the opportunity to return to the premier league but I would imagine that the current set of chairmen will be extremely wary given his obvious wish to use clubs as quick stepping stones. Perhaps a stint in Europe for a few years would be best.

Or perhaps he will sign for Southampton in a few days time.

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 24 Jan 18 5.56pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Move the conversation on would we rather have Silva or Hodgson?

Hodgson surely...?

The quality manager who will most likely stick with us even if a slightly bigger club comes sniffing...

So we've got who we want in the end.

And yes as the poster said above if Parish hadn't corrected his mistake so quickly then even Hodgson might not have been able to save us. But I doubt his haters will ever give him credit for that.

Haters be haters....

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Jan 18 6.16pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I certainly don't regard FdB as a 'charlaton' why.

Hopefully he will get his ideas accepted and it will work out somewhere for him.

The sacking after 4 games was not supported on this site the poll was against it as elsewhere.

SP was wrong to flirt with new ideas when Allardyce had provide the way for Palace to play and the personnel to do it.

There is just no time in the Premier League lose a few games and you are out it is cut-throat.


 

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comeonyoueagles20 Flag caterham 24 Jan 18 7.51pm Send a Private Message to comeonyoueagles20 Add comeonyoueagles20 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Southampton is a year maximum, if you get that long you must have had very good results and got very lucky but they will get rid of you anyway as others have found.

Successful or not, on yer bike.

Serve them right if their next sacrificial lamb turns out to be a double agent working for Bournemouth.


Nigel Adkins was in charge for almost 3 years , pochettino was 18 months before moving to a bigger club , Koeman was 2 years then left for a bigger club , Puel lasted a year then was moved on and now Pellegrino has been there what 6/7 months and hasn’t been sacked yet despite being in the bottom 3 , not really sure where you’ve got this perception they sack managers every six months , because they don’t.

 

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TheArmaniCode Flag 24 Jan 18 8.12pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Move the conversation on would we rather have Silva or Hodgson?

Hodgson surely...?

The quality manager who will most likely stick with us even if a slightly bigger club comes sniffing...

So we've got who we want in the end.

And yes as the poster said above if Parish hadn't corrected his mistake so quickly then even Hodgson might not have been able to save us. But I doubt his haters will ever give him credit for that.

Haters be haters....

Spot on. Hodgson over Silva anyday. So we ended up with the better deal in the end.

And for the record, I do give Parish credit for having the guts to replace De Boer with Roy. But I also think if he had taken better care with the appointment we could've had him at the start of the season and none of this would've happened. So let's not pretend he's the great hero in all this

Edited by TheArmaniCode (24 Jan 2018 8.12pm)

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 24 Jan 18 8.50pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

dont really care for marco silva if im being honest, dodnt beleive the hype when he left hull s***ty after a mediocre stint and dont beleive it now.

his PL % is roughly 33% which is nothing to write home about and to me hes just another “next mourinho” manager who has come thru portugal.

never wanted him pre-season, dont want him now... sure he will turn up in russia/middle east earning a fortune soon.

everton dodged a bullet to

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 25 Jan 18 7.26pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Still think Silva is a decent manager and not sure Watford can complain about lack of loyalty when they’ve turned over so many managers. Another club seriously losing its identity.

Also think Silva from Hull to Watford was done by foreign agents and owners by the time Allardyce walked.

Never witnessed such ineptitude from a Premier League manager as de Boer against Huddersfield and he got three games too long IMO.

 

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