So North Korea fire another missile that could reach the USA. China (the only country that could have influence) do nothing. So what happens next?
But whatever happens, I want that North Korean female news reader given asylum here. Such enthusiasm! Ok she has an anti aircraft.gun pointed at her head. But she would make a great member of Loose women panel and actually make it watchable.

It's tricky....Seoul is just a few miles from North Korea.

The North Koreans have masses of artillery trained on it.

Attacking North Korea...anything short of complete mass nuclear destruction would be tantamount to risking the lives of hundreds of thousands of your allies. Mass nuclear destruction would affect the South too.

It's difficult.

Still, the west must refuse to pay the nuclear blackmail that's coming down the line. Because it's coming....a modern version of the vikings demanding gold to temporarily refrain from attacking.

There's a benefit to China to have the North Koreans as the unacceptable face and them as the brokers.....NK is their little dog nipping at the western heels.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2017 10.12pm)

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Massive risk though.

I think we will only see action if the west is forced into it.....It pisses me off but I think we are going back to a kind of cold war bulls***.

Our government should be building communal nuclear shelters.

There's a kind of ignoring the issue born out of an unwillingness to accept the direness of where we are.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Nuclear Fall Out signs are very common in NYC. There is one just down the Block from me on the school wall.

Pro USA & Israel

In Britain most people just don't think about this issue....It's kind of like the US before 9/11, there is an unrealness, as if these things are a threats for others to deal with.

I mean we have Corbyn and his adoring followers still thinking that not having a nuclear deterrent is a good idea. I've always suspected that really in truth...they are happy to offload responsibility to big brother in the US whilst having the freedom to slag him off any opportunity they get. There's no honour in it independent of the dubious logic.

I'm just an average joe with an average IQ yet this looks very dangerous to me when you actually think of the safety first approach the US has to its allies. It's only going to attack NK if it thinks it's a no lose scenario. Essentially everything is a hedging of bets which is understandable but that only works with rational actors.

I think on the balance of probabilities NK won't attack the US.....However, I'm pretty sure they are going to attempt blackmail. Also, I think they would entertain the likelihood that they could take South Korea with that nuclear cover and unite the country.....though when you look at their army it's focused upon deterrence....they want to continue their slave state.

Regardless I want to know why no one is raising the fact that there are no options for the population in a nuclear attack. Communities should be able to come together and create and stock underground facilities.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

MOAB create a massive implosion as well. Unless the tank or bunker is sealed, that implosion will draw all of the air out of the blast area, which will suffocate people in a large radius. Casualties from MOAB can end up evacuating their lungs such is the pressure created by the implosion. Its a very nasty 'side effect' of the MOAB.

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