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Midlands Eagle 16 Jun 17 5.02pm
Originally posted by Part Time James Yeah, probably true, but not sure what the addons were. Probably not a vast amount. Point being, he was available for Premier League pocket money at one point. Birmingham sold him at a time when they needed cash urgently due to their owners shenanigans which is why he went relatively cheaply. I was another who wished that he had come to us instead of Norwich
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16 Jun 17 5.02pm

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Originally posted by Part Time James

Yeah, probably true, but not sure what the addons were. Probably not a vast amount. Point being, he was available for Premier League pocket money at one point.

Birmingham sold him at a time when they needed cash urgently due to their owners shenanigans which is why he went relatively cheaply.

I was another who wished that he had come to us instead of Norwich

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Palace in the Blood 16 Jun 17 6.55pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Birmingham sold him at a time when they needed cash urgently due to their owners shenanigans which is why he went relatively cheaply. I was another who wished that he had come to us instead of Norwich Demari Gray was another sold for relative peanuts by Brum. Both I would like to have seen at Palace
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16 Jun 17 6.55pm

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Birmingham sold him at a time when they needed cash urgently due to their owners shenanigans which is why he went relatively cheaply.

I was another who wished that he had come to us instead of Norwich

Demari Gray was another sold for relative peanuts by Brum. Both I would like to have seen at Palace

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mattteo 16 Jun 17 6.58pm
Originally posted by Bangell 22 assists in 153 appearances. An assist every 9 hours played across his career; in the last season, it's an assist every 10 hours played. Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years. If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship. He also has 26 goals during this time. Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger! So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off
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mattteo

16 Jun 17 6.58pm

Originally posted by Bangell

22 assists in 153 appearances. An assist every 9 hours played across his career; in the last season, it's an assist every 10 hours played.

Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years.

If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship.
He also has 26 goals during this time.

Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger!

So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jun 17 7.16pm
Originally posted by Palace in the Blood Demari Gray was another sold for relative peanuts by Brum. Both I would like to have seen at Palace Was the fee about £3.5 Mill ? Both Redmond ang Gray played for England U21s this afternoon in their 0-0 draw with holders Sweden.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jun 17 7.16pm

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

Demari Gray was another sold for relative peanuts by Brum. Both I would like to have seen at Palace

Was the fee about £3.5 Mill ?
Both Redmond ang Gray played for England U21s this afternoon in their 0-0 draw with holders Sweden.

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Jamesrichards8 16 Jun 17 9.30pm
Originally posted by mattteo Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years. If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship. He also has 26 goals during this time. Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger! So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off This. He's a very effective attacking player in the championship at least, especially considering the inconsistent form of his team. I dont know if he'd make it in the prem now, i'd give him a go for 10 mill or less. But we won't so it's a moot point. When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...
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16 Jun 17 9.30pm

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Originally posted by mattteo

If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship.
He also has 26 goals during this time.

Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger!

So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off

This. He's a very effective attacking player in the championship at least, especially considering the inconsistent form of his team. I dont know if he'd make it in the prem now, i'd give him a go for 10 mill or less. But we won't so it's a moot point.

When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...

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Bangell Oxford 17 Jun 17 12.18am
Originally posted by mattteo Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years. If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship. He also has 26 goals during this time. Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger! So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off [Link] Here you can see total minutes played. 11761 league minutes played in his career. 22 assists. That's an assist every 534 minutes, or 9 hours.
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Oxford 17 Jun 17 12.18am

Originally posted by mattteo

If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship.
He also has 26 goals during this time.

Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger!

So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off

[Link]

Here you can see total minutes played. 11761 league minutes played in his career. 22 assists. That's an assist every 534 minutes, or 9 hours.

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chateauferret 17 Jun 17 7.53am
Originally posted by mattteo Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years. If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship. He also has 26 goals during this time. Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger! So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off You won't find a better winger? Wilf. HTH. ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

17 Jun 17 7.53am

Originally posted by mattteo

If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship.
He also has 26 goals during this time.

Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger!

So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off

You won't find a better winger?

Wilf.

HTH.

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mattteo 17 Jun 17 8.05am
Originally posted by Bangell [Link] Here you can see total minutes played. 11761 league minutes played in his career. 22 assists. That's an assist every 534 minutes, or 9 hours. i don't know what you're looking at, I can't get myself around that site. Either the info is wrong or you're not reading it clearly. Here, hope this clarifies everything and it's the end of the discussion: [Link]
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mattteo

17 Jun 17 8.05am

Originally posted by Bangell

[Link]

Here you can see total minutes played. 11761 league minutes played in his career. 22 assists. That's an assist every 534 minutes, or 9 hours.

i don't know what you're looking at, I can't get myself around that site. Either the info is wrong or you're not reading it clearly. Here, hope this clarifies everything and it's the end of the discussion:

[Link]

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Dan89 Se25 17 Jun 17 8.11am
Originally posted by mattteo Did you multiply 90 minutes with the number of games you found on on wikipedia????? Dude, he boy is 25 years old. Half of those 153 appearances weren't even more than 15 minutes of game time. He's become a regular in the past 4 years. If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship. He also has 26 goals during this time. Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger! So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off You won't think a better winger lol. How most of the wingers in the premiership. He's had he's chance at two prem league club and failed and two senior managers have deemed him not good enough. In Bruce and pulis. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 17 Jun 17 8.11am

Originally posted by mattteo

If you want to be correct, he has 15 assists in the last 2 seasons, 6800 minutes in the Championship.
He also has 26 goals during this time.

Adding that up, you won;t find a better winger!

So, I don't know what you meant, but your math is off

You won't think a better winger lol.

How most of the wingers in the premiership. He's had he's chance at two prem league club and failed and two senior managers have deemed him not good enough. In Bruce and pulis.

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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Booted Eagle Bristol 17 Jun 17 9.50am
Originally posted by Part Time James I wanted Redmond when we first came up and I think he only went to Norwich for a couple of million. Think he's worth a lot more now. I remember him tearing us a new one at Selhurst in that 4-0 defeat just before we were promoted. Think it was at the time of our promotion to the PL, a double signing of him and Curtis Davies would of been great, particularly after buying about 12 players that season, including Kebe, the French Blancmange etc. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 17 Jun 17 9.50am

Originally posted by Part Time James

I wanted Redmond when we first came up and I think he only went to Norwich for a couple of million. Think he's worth a lot more now. I remember him tearing us a new one at Selhurst in that 4-0 defeat just before we were promoted.

Think it was at the time of our promotion to the PL, a double signing of him and Curtis Davies would of been great, particularly after buying about 12 players that season, including Kebe, the French Blancmange etc.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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mattteo 17 Jun 17 1.36pm
Originally posted by Dan89 You won't think a better winger lol. How most of the wingers in the premiership. He's had he's chance at two prem league club and failed and two senior managers have deemed him not good enough. In Bruce and pulis. Obviously, when I said "you won't find a better winger", I meant in The Championship. He was deemed not good enough? He was in Premier League clubs at a very young age and went to The Championship for playing time and to develop. It's a natural process. The point is, he is good enough for the Premier League now, at 25. And then some!
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mattteo

17 Jun 17 1.36pm

Originally posted by Dan89

You won't think a better winger lol.

How most of the wingers in the premiership. He's had he's chance at two prem league club and failed and two senior managers have deemed him not good enough. In Bruce and pulis.

Obviously, when I said "you won't find a better winger", I meant in The Championship.

He was deemed not good enough? He was in Premier League clubs at a very young age and went to The Championship for playing time and to develop. It's a natural process.

The point is, he is good enough for the Premier League now, at 25. And then some!

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