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jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Jan 17 4.59pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
no, its the stupid shape he makes over his head to form an m , people gush over it, i think theyre stupid cnuts,im with you thou, not giving to charity anymore, if they give away 800k of the money to mo im not taking part, thats what tax is for i guess Is it like the YMCA dance M? Never seen him run to be honest. Of course if they pay him, he then pays tax on that income. Of course they're not giving the money away, because having him, attracts sponsors, which drives up television rights etc. Its all business. Except I do give to charities and causes. The reason I never buy a poppy, is that I have a monthly donation to the British Legion. I also am a regular supporter of a number of other charitable causes, mainly homeless and animal welfare. Although I used to volunteer at the local prison, teaching IT skills to inmates.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Jan 17 5.05pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Is it like the YMCA dance M? Never seen him run to be honest. Of course if they pay him, he then pays tax on that income. Of course they're not giving the money away, because having him, attracts sponsors, which drives up television rights etc. Its all business. Except I do give to charities and causes. The reason I never buy a poppy, is that I have a monthly donation to the British Legion. I also am a regular supporter of a number of other charitable causes, mainly homeless and animal welfare. Although I used to volunteer at the local prison, teaching IT skills to inmates.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Jan 17 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I seem to feed foxes too, the little c**ts regularly seem to be able to get my bins over. I can tell you that after spending thirty minutes putting everything back in the bin, I'm a long f**king way from feeling charitable....
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Jan 17 6.13pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I seem to feed foxes too, the little c**ts regularly seem to be able to get my bins over. I can tell you that after spending thirty minutes putting everything back in the bin, I'm a long f**king way from feeling charitable....
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Hoof Hearted 31 Jan 17 10.29am | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Itoje was born here so that makes him English. The vunipolas came over with their parents as very young children and are proud to represent England. By your reckoning Laurence Bruno Nero Dallaglio was out of place too. How about Danny Cippriani? Dylan Hartley the England captain was born in New Zealand but i guess thats alright because it doesnt sound funny or foreign. The ones I listed were examples FFS. I do not agree with the principle, so I could go back beyond Basil D'Oliveira being allowed to play cricket for England in the 1960's or indeed anyone that now plays for a country that is not their country of birth. I sort of get the father/son thing, but only if that person has a dual nationality like Wilf Zaha but doesn't flip/flop between nations when it suits them.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 31 Jan 17 4.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The ones I listed were examples FFS. I do not agree with the principle, so I could go back beyond Basil D'Oliveira being allowed to play cricket for England in the 1960's or indeed anyone that now plays for a country that is not their country of birth. I sort of get the father/son thing, but only if that person has a dual nationality like Wilf Zaha but doesn't flip/flop between nations when it suits them. Why the need to mention "fine english names like Itoje and Vunipola"?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 10.28am | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The ones I listed were examples FFS. I do not agree with the principle, so I could go back beyond Basil D'Oliveira being allowed to play cricket for England in the 1960's or indeed anyone that now plays for a country that is not their country of birth. I sort of get the father/son thing, but only if that person has a dual nationality like Wilf Zaha but doesn't flip/flop between nations when it suits them. Nationalism is a meaningless concept though, born out misguided ideas that difference is more significant than similarities in defining who we are in relation to other people. Drawing ourselves in our distinction from others, rather than similarlities, creates a division of Us and Them mentality in culture, that ultimately serves no real purpose other than creating a means by which we can be manipulated in 'the national interest' to fulfil others agendas. Its as dangerous as Communism, Fascism, as it draws people into the idea of conflict with each other.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 10.52am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Nationalism is a meaningless concept though, born out misguided ideas that difference is more significant than similarities in defining who we are in relation to other people. Drawing ourselves in our distinction from others, rather than similarlities, creates a division of Us and Them mentality in culture, that ultimately serves no real purpose other than creating a means by which we can be manipulated in 'the national interest' to fulfil others agendas. Its as dangerous as Communism, Fascism, as it draws people into the idea of conflict with each other. Internationalism is a meaningless concept though, born out misguided ideas that similarity is more significant than differences in defining who we are in relation to other people.
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Hoof Hearted 01 Feb 17 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Why the need to mention "fine english names like Itoje and Vunipola"? Just trying to add a bit of spice to my posts instead of being bland and boring! You don't have to read what I put as literal... you don't have to agree with me either... it's only my opinion!
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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 12.41pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Internationalism is a meaningless concept though, born out misguided ideas that similarity is more significant than differences in defining who we are in relation to other people. Quite agree that internationalism is a equally pointless concept, as its effectively a nationalism of no nations. Were a species, and have far more in common with one another, than we have in difference. The plight of the ordinary person everywhere, is remarkably similar, irrespective of creed and culture. Its only in focusing on the differences as being important, that we become ripe to be manipulated.
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