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 merganser  30 Dec 16 11.20am |
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In his recently-published autobiography, A Life in Football, there are some interesting comments by Ian Wright about his tricky relationship with Jim Cannon, Micky Droy and George Wood when he was starting out with Palace. He claims he was bullied by big Jim.
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| Hoof Hearted 30 Dec 16 12.15pm | |
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Well.... all I know is that Jim Cannon pretty much devoted his playing career to Palace and wasn't tempted to leave for more cash and silverware. What Wrighty saw as "bullying" probably was Jimbo being a passionate stalwart for the club who cared about winning and doing your best. Maybe that "bullying" might have helped Wrighty grow up from being a flash non league wannabe to the superb international he became? For those that don't know Jim Cannon he was a dour scot who would put his thread through a brick wall to get Palace a goal or save one. Arguably our best ever player/captain and certainly the most loyal. Don't think Wrighty has done himself any favours with this tale personally.
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| monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 30 Dec 16 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Well.... all I know is that Jim Cannon pretty much devoted his playing career to Palace and wasn't tempted to leave for more cash and silverware. What Wrighty saw as "bullying" probably was Jimbo being a passionate stalwart for the club who cared about winning and doing your best. Maybe that "bullying" might have helped Wrighty grow up from being a flash non league wannabe to the superb international he became? For those that don't know Jim Cannon he was a dour scot who would put his thread through a brick wall to get Palace a goal or save one. Arguably our best ever player/captain and certainly the most loyal. Don't think Wrighty has done himself any favours with this tale personally. Sorry hoof, but much as JC is a club legend, you're a bit deluded if you think he stayed with us through loyalty, do you seriously think if one of the big boys at the time throughout his palace career had come in for him he would've stayed? I doubt it somehow!!
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There was a clique in the squad when Steve Coppell was transitioning the side...with the old guard of Jim Cannon, George Wood and other senior pros and the new players like Wrighty, Andy Gray etc. Legend has it that Wrighty nutmegged Cannon on his first day at training and Jimbo decked him for taking the p**s! Coppell enquired as to why Jimbo had done that when he needed Wrighty for Saturday!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Dec 16 1.18pm |
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Watch the centenary video on YouTube of Wright and Bright being interviewed. I think it's the big bar on Crystal Palace triangle. Anyway they say something like the old guard were happy with the coasting in the 2nd tier and weren't up for the youngsters ambition. Something along those lines.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Dec 16 1.24pm |
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Basically the sort of thing that happens at all clubs at all levels....
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Dec 16 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Basically the sort of thing that happens at all clubs at all levels.... Disagree. Wouldn't happen at a club with all players hungry for success. Does sound like Wright and Bright were more desperate for it than those already there could deal with or match up to. The rollickings Wright used to give crossers of the ball when we were at our highest illustrates this. Disagreements and cliques and different interests at all clubs of course but not a big disparity in ambition.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Dec 16 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Disagree. Wouldn't happen at a club with all players hungry for success. Does sound like Wright and Bright were more desperate for it than those already there could deal with or match up to. The rollickings Wright used to give crossers of the ball when we were at our highest illustrates this. Disagreements and cliques and different interests at all clubs of course but not a big disparity in ambition. It's more about enforcing ' seniority status ' on the young upstarts. Of course younger players starting out in the game have a hunger and ambition that the old pros once had but perhaps have lost. I've seen this down the years even at County League level !
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| Hoof Hearted 31 Dec 16 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
It's more about enforcing ' seniority status ' on the young upstarts. Of course younger players starting out in the game have a hunger and ambition that the old pros once had but perhaps have lost. I've seen this down the years even at County League level ! It happened at Senior Amateur too NEILLO... me and my fellow centre back at 35 years old used to kick lumps out of anyone at training who tried to be flash and/or lippy no matter how old they were, but mostly they were young. When I took over as manager I would test them by seeing how long they would put up with running the line (which was one of the sub's duties) and not getting any game time. In the pro game young trainees were given tasks like cleaning the first teamer's boots. Doesn't hurt to "ground" them... doubt that practise still goes on today though.
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