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 Sherlock Holmesdale  Milton Keynes 23 Dec 16 9.41am |
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Originally posted by Stuttgartmetal
There was a one all on the cards before he subbed 3 minutes from the whistle, leaving MacArthur sized hole for ibrahimovitch to score from McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Dec 16 9.53am |
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Originally posted by essetwentyone
Yes. Parish had me really concerned for a while. Really concerned. It's cost us (CPFC) a large part of the budget we'd otherwise spend on players or training infrastructure requirements but it had to be done. Extending for 5 years to 2021 I'll never understand and I'm sure Steve Parish looks at that, feels the financial pain and regrets it. But successful people have to use it positively. He's no doubt employed people he wished he hadn't so makes it a bit easier.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Dec 16 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale
McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game Watch the last 5-10 mins again. MacArthur was in and out of that area Cabaye pathetically fell under and to the side of Pogba. Campbell is a forward and was in front of the ball the whole time he was on. It certainly didn't make us more able to see out a point did it? It showed us yet again how Pardew thinks. He puts himself in these ruts of hunting wins every minute and match and week and getting nothing because he did it last match, before that, before that and repeat all the fingers on your hand. Had to go. Cannot quietly accumulate points like the respected managers do.
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| Username Horsham 23 Dec 16 10.03am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
It's difficult to say without seeing how we'd have got on at Watford and against Swansea, if there hadn't been a management change. My fear was that, if we'd got points from those two, Pardew would have then reverted to type again (like he did at Hull, after Southampton) and I'm not sure how much more of that we could have taken before we were beyond redemption. Being somewhat senior myself, I agree with you on the rest, but we'd never achieve the badly needed infrastructure improvements outside of the PL. Part of the issue I think is that because of the length of the run, things were getting magnified to a ridiculous degree. I don't think any substitutions have ever been as scrutinised as in the last four weeks. Cabaye comes on against Hull and we concede, so therefore he's crap and it's all his fault etc. I do agree that I'm not sure we'd hit rock bottom yet. For large parts of every game we were playing well and scoring goals, it just wasn't clicking. The example I gave when speaking to people was of Warnock's last game when Southampton beat us 3-0 at Selhurst. That game was so abject and the performance so lifeless, that there could have been no one watching who could have thought NW was going to stay in charge. I never felt we got to that stage with Pardew. It's always felt this season that we were really close to getting it right. That's not to say I think it's the wrong call, I'm probably one of many who'd reached the 'meh' stage. I didn't necessarily want him sacked, but at the same time each passing day made it feel more inevitable.
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| si_1967 Surrey 23 Dec 16 10.26am |
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale
McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game Why did you come on and just re-hash a point that Rudi has been trying to explain for the last 5 pages!! Okay, let's try one more time: I've never really played football not at any standard, but my immediate reaction, at the time, when he made the change was "What the F*** he's doing" and that feeling still stands, obviously I can't prove it was the decisive factor. I have asked various people since about what they would do in that situation (including my wife) and they've all said "hang on for a point" or bring on a defender/midfielder if you have to make a change. His own worst enemy in this situation i'm afraid
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| MKCPFC Spain/MK 23 Dec 16 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Username
Part of the issue I think is that because of the length of the run, things were getting magnified to a ridiculous degree. I don't think any substitutions have ever been as scrutinised as in the last four weeks. Cabaye comes on against Hull and we concede, so therefore he's crap and it's all his fault etc. I do agree that I'm not sure we'd hit rock bottom yet. For large parts of every game we were playing well and scoring goals, it just wasn't clicking. The example I gave when speaking to people was of Warnock's last game when Southampton beat us 3-0 at Selhurst. That game was so abject and the performance so lifeless, that there could have been no one watching who could have thought NW was going to stay in charge. I never felt we got to that stage with Pardew. It's always felt this season that we were really close to getting it right. That's not to say I think it's the wrong call, I'm probably one of many who'd reached the 'meh' stage. I didn't necessarily want him sacked, but at the same time each passing day made it feel more inevitable. Pardew's was the Swansea farce.
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| essetwentyone london 23 Dec 16 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Watch the last 5-10 mins again. MacArthur was in and out of that area Cabaye pathetically fell under and to the side of Pogba. Campbell is a forward and was in front of the ball the whole time he was on. It certainly didn't make us more able to see out a point did it? It showed us yet again how Pardew thinks. He puts himself in these ruts of hunting wins every minute and match and week and getting nothing because he did it last match, before that, before that and repeat all the fingers on your hand. Had to go. Cannot quietly accumulate points like the respected managers do.
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| essetwentyone london 23 Dec 16 11.57am |
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If they can't get it by now Rudi they never will !
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| spartakev2 Anerley 23 Dec 16 12.19pm |
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At the end of the say we will probably gave to win 9 of our last 21 games to stay up. Could anyone really see this happening with pardew in charge?
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