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Dan89 Se25 22 Aug 16 10.02am | |
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Is our poor Scouting to blame to not find gems abroad and pay over the odds in the premiership. Take sissoko for example valued at 35m by newcastle. There is surely more value abroad in the seria A or the bundesliga. It's about time,we funded the Scouting department. The only market we seem to be in is the English market. Yes we bought mandanda and souare but are we put off the other markets by the unsuccessful signing of campana or is our lack of knowledge about other leagues. Thoughts
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Pigglelet Deepest Darkest Sussex 22 Aug 16 11.33am | |
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OK, I’ll take the bait. I know there aren’t many decent players out there who are both available at a price we can afford and ones that their clubs are willing to let go. It’s true that there is a limited market as far as we are concerned, but the signs do seem to indicate that our scouting “network” (it it exists) leaves quite a bit to be desired.
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Palace in the Blood 22 Aug 16 12.02pm | |
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When we went into administration a lot of our scouting network was cut and staff lost. It takes a while to re-build. We hired Moody and look what happened !!!. I agree it is a glaring deficiency and I am sure it is being addressed but it's one of the areas we are not EPL standard
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coulsdoneagle London 22 Aug 16 12.08pm | |
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The club are making strides to improve it since the US investment but it takes time. Over the next few seasons expect to see more. Mandanda, is an early example of a player who has never played over here. We had been looking at a defender from French League 2 before the Tomkins deal I am told. If these William Vanquier rumours are true, that's another one. It's happening, it's a slow process
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Reynolds1986 Braintree 22 Aug 16 12.19pm | |
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There must be something a miss. Like has been stated we lost a lot of our network in 2010 ect. But there are so many tools and Internet basses scouting networks we could use. To me with all the money coming in there is no reason not to have guys in the tops leagues attending matches, not to say that we don't but sometimes players don't need that much scouting there are a lot good players out there. I watch a lot of German football and there some incredible players in that league that I should think are obtainable, people like younes malli or hakan calhanoglu. Or even zlatko junizovic, all in all I think we need to upgrade scouting.
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nimblehippo 22 Aug 16 1.38pm | |
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who needs a scouting network when you can use football manager!
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nosy leicestershire 22 Aug 16 1.56pm | |
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Well Mr Parish and Co.I think its about time you responded,
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james03 Bangkok 23 Aug 16 4.04am | |
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I agree we need to do a lot of work on the scouting team to get it up to PL standard. However, at the present stage of our development to becoming an established side at this level overseas players do not appear to be a large part of our plan. We are looking to acquire British or overseas players who have Premier League experience. Many of these players are already known to the manager which means he rates them and knows their personalities will fit in with the dressing room. To me this seems like an eminently sensible squad development policy. Every player effectively hits the ground running. Many overseas players take a year to become accustomed to this league and some (for example Erik Lamela at Spurs) even longer. Souare is our only outfield player who had no previous experience of playing in England and he had been linked to us for well over one year before signing. As we get a deeper and better squad then getting one, two or more overseas players in will not be so much of a risk and they will have time to adapt.
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Petereagle Brockley 23 Aug 16 8.14am | |
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Originally posted by james03
I agree we need to do a lot of work on the scouting team to get it up to PL standard. However, at the present stage of our development to becoming an established side at this level overseas players do not appear to be a large part of our plan. We are looking to acquire British or overseas players who have Premier League experience. Many of these players are already known to the manager which means he rates them and knows their personalities will fit in with the dressing room. To me this seems like an eminently sensible squad development policy. Every player effectively hits the ground running. Many overseas players take a year to become accustomed to this league and some (for example Erik Lamela at Spurs) even longer. Souare is our only outfield player who had no previous experience of playing in England and he had been linked to us for well over one year before signing. As we get a deeper and better squad then getting one, two or more overseas players in will not be so much of a risk and they will have time to adapt. A good post, but If anything, I think we need more UK born players in the first team squad. I saw a statistic somewhere that our average for UK players is around 40% which is bettered by quite a few PL teams. So maybe its our english league scouting network which needs upgrading?
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SeagullHunter Reading 23 Aug 16 10.26am | |
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Our Scouting network is that of a Championship club, like most of our infrastructure. Transition is happening so i'm sure it's one of the things we're working on and will be imporved in due course. It is frustrating that teams like Stoke sign Shaqiri, Bojan, Arnoutavic - cementing their top 10 status; and we can't even locate an affordable creative number 10 in Europe. I think we are trying, but the reality is that it isnt easy. Far cheaper to sign players from abroad and in truth their is a lot of quality out there.
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wonder Madrid 25 Aug 16 1.00pm | |
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We can compare ourselves to Leicester in as far as until last season they were managed worse than us. Leicester was taken over in 2010 by a billionaire whereas Parish and co. have only chosen to share part ownership with a billionaire since this year.
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