Pence looks smart because he stands next to Trump. He is a religious ideologue who will be a terrible President - i.e. far better than Trump. Think Bush but more churchy.

I do think he is complicit in Trump's actions, but I suspect that there will be a deal struck in Washington to take down Trump but leave Pence in place "for the good of the nation".

Also, if they ouster both, it's President Ryan and he's a whole nother story. He thinks he's smart and he thinks he's doing the right thing and he's very, very far from both of those things.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Has he been impeached yet?

I think it has to be a majority vote in the representatives, passed up into the senate. Its remarkably difficult.

In reality I think what will happen is that he'll have to testify, and in doing so is almost certain to commit perjury.

Of course Republicans wanted to impeach Clinton because he lied about getting his dick sucked by a young Intern....

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I think rule 101 of politics, whether its democracy or tyranny, is don't pick a fight with your 'Intelligence Services'.

The Republicans will soon have to sacrifice him, if they don't want to end up unelectable.

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Let's not get too misty eyed about good ol Richard Milhous,the "not s***" president and "patriot".
As was written in the 100th anniversary of his birth in 2013

"This week saw the 100th birthday of America's 37th president, Richard Milhous Nixon.

With the benefit of hindsight, Nixon has one of the most remarkable political legacies of any figure in modern American history – winner of four national elections (as president and vice-presidential), on a presidential ballot every year but one from 1952 to 1972, and one of the most dominating political personalities of the second half of the 20th century.

Here was the man who "went to China", spurred détente with the Soviets, signed into law the establishment of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), took America off the gold standard and ended the Vietnam war.

Of course, on the flip side, he also prolonged the Vietnam war, obstructed justice from the Oval Office, used the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to go after his political enemies, launched an illegal war in Cambodia, waged a dirty tricks campaign against his opponents, placed Spiro Agnew a heartbeat from the presidency, kept an "enemies list", was recorded in the Oval Office describing Jews as "aggressive, abrasive and obnoxious" and Italians as not having their "heads screwed on tight", ended the Vietnam war with neither peace nor honor, was impeached by Congress, resigned the presidency and left a permanent stain on American democracy … and those are just some of this greatest hits.

Oh, and also, he committed treason.

Now, that is not my description; rather, it reflects the view of President Lyndon B Johnson, who, in the final days of the 1968 presidential election, became convinced that Richard Nixon (who eventually won the race) and his campaign associates were working surreptitiously with the South Vietnamese government to obstruct peace talks between the US and North Vietnam. It is one of the most duplicitous and pernicious moments in Nixon's political career – which, considering his larger crimes, is really saying something."

Trump may be a whole sack of sh+t but that doesn't mean Nixon wasn't a piece..

Edited by legaleagle (18 May 2017 8.02pm)

Although I don't agree with his politics, my main problem with Trump is he is a fraud. He's never been a "great" businessman, most of his accomplishments are really his father's. His Atlantic City casinos are all bankrupt and are being torn down.

Republicans, especially in Congress, are starting to realize that they can move their conservative agenda forward with VP Pence in charge a heck of a lot easier than with Trump. With him, they never know what the story is. He has undercut his press office, his Justice Department and the National Security Council with his intemperate statements that contradict what they have said. The one non-issue that is being made an issue is the so-called leaking of classified information to the Russians in the Oval Office. The President is the final authority concerning the classification of documents and who has access to such information, short of nuclear related material which is classified No Foreign Release (NOFORN).

Even Ann Coulter is having second thoughts about him and she is to the right of Atilla the Hun.

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