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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Mar 15 8.48pm

Quote chris123 at 09 Mar 2015 8.32pm


And the 500 free schools just announced.


Ah yes the free schools are best fallacy... This policy exchange report shows they ain't as good as Dave makes out.
[Link]

Despite the evidence to the contrary, Dave just thinks it... A little like someone else I know

 
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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 09 Mar 15 8.55pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 Mar 2015 8.48pm

Quote chris123 at 09 Mar 2015 8.32pm


And the 500 free schools just announced.


Ah yes the free schools are best fallacy... This policy exchange report shows they ain't as good as Dave makes out.
[Link]

Despite the evidence to the contrary, Dave just thinks it... A little like someone else I know

500 schools purporting the beliefs of various dubious religious sects [again]!

 

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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 10 Mar 15 1.26pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

free schools All bad
This is from the BBC (labour biased broadcaster)

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Mar 15 1.36pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

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Firstly, sorry for the other threads started regarding this issue; that is a tad annoying.
MODS; if you want to make this the 'official' thread of the Gen elections then go ahead.

Anyway...

It is great to see so many replies, and it is extremely interesting reading through your opinions with one another.

There is a lot of talk this morning about the SNP gaining a large proportion of votes; they are the last people i want in Westminster.

It does appear i am swinging to a Tory vote, although i am still hesitant about this!

I have read through the different links people have put up; i suppose it leads me to propse this question to the HOL'ers;

Who do you think will win the election and why?

Fortunately or unfortunately you have no say in the matter. You aren't a Scottish voter (I presume) and so have no impact in the consitutencies that can actually vote for SNP candidates.

And they will win seats in some of those constituencies and so they will enter Westminster. And will have every right to do so.

If you mean you don't want them in government, then you have slightly more say, but still pretty much nil. Unless you're in one of the key swing consitutencies in the UK then your vote will have no impact on the outcome of the election.

And that is the FPP system of democracy that we have in this country.

No one will win the next general election. I think the biggest single party will be the Tories, but in all likelihood the Lib Dems won't have enough seats to get them to another coalition government. Which means it will either be a minority administration or Labour and the SNP and the Lib Dems and the Greens may be able to form a slightly 'grander' coalition if the electoral maths works.


I think that the very possibility of a SNP-Labour coalition should be broadcast from every vantage point from now until the election and maybe this will be enough to focus minds and get people voting. I'd rather a Labour majority, than a Lab/SNP alliance in Gov.


I would be inclined to change those words to "Conservative majority" as I certainly do not want another Labour government undoing all the good work being done and descend again into another big recession with the way Labour like to spend spend spend and spend. I also like a military deterrent that will be scrapped if the other parties get in...Be safe and FEEL safe is my motto.


I would much rather an outright Tory majority too, the point I was trying to make is that I'd next rather a Labour Government than a Lab-SNP coalition - which at the moment seems to be the most likely outcome.

WHO in their right mind would like red ED in number 10 either on a majority or in a coalition.....Either way he would wreck the country like boy Blair did!!! Gos forbid if he ever gets in.....


Maybe I'm not in my right mind, but I'm pro Union and so therefore don't want the SNP anywhere near No 10 - and as a prefered alternative would have a Labour Government.

I too dislike the idea of the SNP getting anywhere near being in our government that is why it is imperative that we have an outright win by the conservatives which is my preferred alternative.


I think many may adopt this view!

UKIP have gone AWOL i think and this is a three horse race; 2 if you consider the options.

Torie led government.

Labour/SNP

The latter sounds somewhat disturbing.


It's difficult to argue with the numbers - with the SNP looking like getting a landslide in Scotland - every bookie has a Lab-SNP Gov as clear favorite. The only way to stop this is to vote Tory right across England and hope that UKIP doesn't take too many disaffected blue voters with them.


We were favourite to beat Liverpool in the cup.....Bookies DO get it wrong sometimes!???


Granted, but if the SNP get 52 seats, Labour would need just over 270 seats - with the Lib Dems stuggling, that is looking increasingly possible.

I think we will all be shocked at the results when they come in at the election and probably find that all the speculation on Labour and SNP seats will be wrong. The Libs will get a pasting and so will UKIP I think as they have been going down in the polls a bit....Perhaps people have woken up to the fact that a UKIP vote is a wasted vote?

Every vote is a wasted vote...

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 10 Mar 15 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote Turd Alert at 06 Mar 2015 9.53am

Morning All,

I am a first time voter, Never 'Studied' politics in an educational term but always watch Question time and listen to LBC

I am really struggling to relate to any party at the moment; What is it you look for in a party? What swings you to vote for X / Y.

There is a split within my family of Tories and UKIP and both have been pushed onto me but i do not wish to be swayed to vote in lieu of my parents / grandparents / uncle / aunts voting opinions.

Its a big deal to me, as when i watched the 2010 elections i felt betrayed as the Lib dems turned their back on the younger generation by for what i see, plain balls***, via increasing their student fee's. I almost feel an instant dislike for the party and feel i will never vote for them. As for all the others, man i just do not know where to look, what to read, and how to make my decision.

Sorry if this is boring and stuff but i am just seeking some help / advice!

thanks in advance!


Maybe this scenario would help...

You're £100 in debt and you wont get you're next payslip for a couple of months; do you:

A) Cut back on the things you spend on until the money comes in

B) Continue spending at the same rate increasing your debt so that by the time you get paid it may be all but gone

C) Start saving, but refuse to let the immigrant postie from delivering your payslip so you never get the money

D) Sit in the garden and look at the trees...hugging one every now and then

E) Do nothing and sniff womens underwear?

There...I think that about covers all your meaningful options!

 

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Turd Alert Flag Woldingham 11 Mar 15 9.26am Send a Private Message to Turd Alert Add Turd Alert as a friend

Quote Lyons550 at 10 Mar 2015 1.45pm

Quote Turd Alert at 06 Mar 2015 9.53am

Morning All,

I am a first time voter, Never 'Studied' politics in an educational term but always watch Question time and listen to LBC

I am really struggling to relate to any party at the moment; What is it you look for in a party? What swings you to vote for X / Y.

There is a split within my family of Tories and UKIP and both have been pushed onto me but i do not wish to be swayed to vote in lieu of my parents / grandparents / uncle / aunts voting opinions.

Its a big deal to me, as when i watched the 2010 elections i felt betrayed as the Lib dems turned their back on the younger generation by for what i see, plain balls***, via increasing their student fee's. I almost feel an instant dislike for the party and feel i will never vote for them. As for all the others, man i just do not know where to look, what to read, and how to make my decision.

Sorry if this is boring and stuff but i am just seeking some help / advice!

thanks in advance!


Maybe this scenario would help...

You're £100 in debt and you wont get you're next payslip for a couple of months; do you:

A) Cut back on the things you spend on until the money comes in

B) Continue spending at the same rate increasing your debt so that by the time you get paid it may be all but gone

C) Start saving, but refuse to let the immigrant postie from delivering your payslip so you never get the money

D) Sit in the garden and look at the trees...hugging one every now and then

E) Do nothing and sniff womens underwear?

There...I think that about covers all your meaningful options!

Very interesting when you put it like that!

I'd go for A if i am being honest.

Or E depending on how many guinesses i've had

 

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 11 Mar 15 5.19pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

The more I look at politics, the more I totally despair and find it puzzling how otherwise intelligent, rational people can put their faith in any political party to meaningfully achieve anything in our society.

I mean, people actually believe the Tories are 'fixing' the economy!? Why? How? How do you even begin to 'fix' an economy which is in trillions of pounds of debt?

Labour are probably worse in that they suck so many on the liberal left in to believing they will achieve anything positive. This whole 'vote Labour to keep the Tories out' nonsense is really just a complicit act of consent in Labour's move to the right, and further legitimises the f*cking shambolic policies they propose.

UKIP are an absolute shambles who have ingeniously managed to kid people in to believing they are some kind of upstart alternative in a kind of post-ironic way. Farage standing up and talking about 'the people's army' is almost beyond ridicule.

The Greens are the latest in a long line of reformists who think they can achieve genuine radical change through governmental politics. But you only have to look at their European track record, or the track record of the Labour party through the 20th century, or whatever other offshoots of them, to see that it's never gonna happen.

And the Lib Dems are also w@nkers.

So mate, as a first time voter all I can suggest to you is to go in to the polling booth, get a big black felt tip out and write NONE OF THE ABOVE, or something similar. Democracy isn't the act of posting a vote once every 5 years; it's a system we participate in every moment of our lives, from workplace issues to arguing down the pub to taking to the streets. Accept that you won't change anything through Westminster and you'll realise how affecting change is best done. By voting, you tacitly condone those pricks' position of authority.

 

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Mar 15 5.24pm

Quote serial thriller at 11 Mar 2015 5.19pm

The more I look at politics, the more I totally despair and find it puzzling how otherwise intelligent, rational people can put their faith in any political party to meaningfully achieve anything in our society.

I mean, people actually believe the Tories are 'fixing' the economy!? Why? How? How do you even begin to 'fix' an economy which is in trillions of pounds of debt?

Labour are probably worse in that they suck so many on the liberal left in to believing they will achieve anything positive. This whole 'vote Labour to keep the Tories out' nonsense is really just a complicit act of consent in Labour's move to the right, and further legitimises the f*cking shambolic policies they propose.

UKIP are an absolute shambles who have ingeniously managed to kid people in to believing they are some kind of upstart alternative in a kind of post-ironic way. Farage standing up and talking about 'the people's army' is almost beyond ridicule.

The Greens are the latest in a long line of reformists who think they can achieve genuine radical change through governmental politics. But you only have to look at their European track record, or the track record of the Labour party through the 20th century, or whatever other offshoots of them, to see that it's never gonna happen.

And the Lib Dems are also w@nkers.

So mate, as a first time voter all I can suggest to you is to go in to the polling booth, get a big black felt tip out and write NONE OF THE ABOVE, or something similar. Democracy isn't the act of posting a vote once every 5 years; it's a system we participate in every moment of our lives, from workplace issues to arguing down the pub to taking to the streets. Accept that you won't change anything through Westminster and you'll realise how affecting change is best done. By voting, you tacitly condone those pricks' position of authority.

Yep.

 
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chris123 Flag hove actually 11 Mar 15 5.34pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Quote serial thriller at 11 Mar 2015 5.19pm

The more I look at politics, the more I totally despair and find it puzzling how otherwise intelligent, rational people can put their faith in any political party to meaningfully achieve anything in our society.

I mean, people actually believe the Tories are 'fixing' the economy!? Why? How? How do you even begin to 'fix' an economy which is in trillions of pounds of debt?

Labour are probably worse in that they suck so many on the liberal left in to believing they will achieve anything positive. This whole 'vote Labour to keep the Tories out' nonsense is really just a complicit act of consent in Labour's move to the right, and further legitimises the f*cking shambolic policies they propose.

UKIP are an absolute shambles who have ingeniously managed to kid people in to believing they are some kind of upstart alternative in a kind of post-ironic way. Farage standing up and talking about 'the people's army' is almost beyond ridicule.

The Greens are the latest in a long line of reformists who think they can achieve genuine radical change through governmental politics. But you only have to look at their European track record, or the track record of the Labour party through the 20th century, or whatever other offshoots of them, to see that it's never gonna happen.

And the Lib Dems are also w@nkers.

So mate, as a first time voter all I can suggest to you is to go in to the polling booth, get a big black felt tip out and write NONE OF THE ABOVE, or something similar. Democracy isn't the act of posting a vote once every 5 years; it's a system we participate in every moment of our lives, from workplace issues to arguing down the pub to taking to the streets. Accept that you won't change anything through Westminster and you'll realise how affecting change is best done. By voting, you tacitly condone those pricks' position of authority.


90% of GDP - not great, but not disasterous, higher than Germany but less than Spain, France and Italy.

 
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Turd Alert Flag Woldingham 12 Mar 15 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Turd Alert Add Turd Alert as a friend

Well Nigel farage has reinforced the idea he is a t*** with his idea's on how people can employ people!

 

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Hansy Flag 12 Mar 15 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Any party rumoured to be siding with the SNP in a hung parliament, will not get my vote.

#BringBackDavidMiliband

 
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dannyb1 Flag Chichester 12 Mar 15 12.34pm Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

Vote CISTA or none of the above.

 
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