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Andy_G Wimbledon 25 Apr 14 3.05pm
Quote Northbrook at 24 Apr 2014 11.04pm Much has been made of their late dart into the transfer market in January as being decisive but, of the four new players recruited on deadline day, only Dann and Ledley – both ever-presents since 1 February – have made a prolonged impact. Wayne Hennessey was bought with the future in mind, even if his presence has squeezed the best out of Julián Speroni. Tom Ince was a risk worth taking, even for a seven-figure loan fee, who made an immediate impact against West Bromwich Albion but has since lulled, a player who has not had any game-time at all since the goalless draw at Sunderland on 15 March. When you read this it makes our achievements this season and Pulis' work even more impressive. Agree with previous posters, hope no one gets too carried away next season. As much as I'm excited and wanting us to kick on, finishing 17th will suffice thanks. I remember last season really hoping we could sign Ince as that would have been incredible but now I'm not really bothered if we do or not. Next season will be as tough as this season. Every game will be a massive battle, if we think we have arrived then we'll get beat. The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years
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Quote Northbrook at 24 Apr 2014 11.04pm

Much has been made of their late dart into the transfer market in January as being decisive but, of the four new players recruited on deadline day, only Dann and Ledley – both ever-presents since 1 February – have made a prolonged impact. Wayne Hennessey was bought with the future in mind, even if his presence has squeezed the best out of Julián Speroni. Tom Ince was a risk worth taking, even for a seven-figure loan fee, who made an immediate impact against West Bromwich Albion but has since lulled, a player who has not had any game-time at all since the goalless draw at Sunderland on 15 March.

When you read this it makes our achievements this season and Pulis' work even more impressive. Agree with previous posters, hope no one gets too carried away next season. As much as I'm excited and wanting us to kick on, finishing 17th will suffice thanks.

I remember last season really hoping we could sign Ince as that would have been incredible but now I'm not really bothered if we do or not.

Next season will be as tough as this season. Every game will be a massive battle, if we think we have arrived then we'll get beat.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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jcreedy 25 Apr 14 3.31pm
Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities. Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward. Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist wnkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives. But I stray off topic. Good article, sht paper. He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention. It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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25 Apr 14 3.31pm

Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am

What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities.

Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward.

Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist w*nkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives.

But I stray off topic. Good article, sh*t paper.

He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention.

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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bright&wright 25 Apr 14 4.21pm
Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 2.41pm Blimey Wrightandbright (was a delight to say those names once)there's lots of anger there. Unless you are someone who really gains from closed press it's difficult to know from whence you come. I was pleased to be able to know about Snowden and others of his ilk, as well as in depth knowledge concerning Mr Farage. Doesn't scare me at all. I had an uncle who toured the 'work camps' in Germany in Germany and Poland during the 1940s for the Red Cross and he was so thankful when the censorship was lifted from the German press and 'ignorant' Germans were made aware of what their country had been doing. If they had known in the first place an awful war may not have transpired and the evil USSR could not have consolidated. As Hitler may have said, ignorance was bliss for him. And where is Mr Snowden now? Russia. Brilliant! They hate homosexuals and anyone who speaks out against their leader. Definitely the place for freedom of speech! 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.
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25 Apr 14 4.21pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 2.41pm

Blimey Wrightandbright (was a delight to say those names once)there's lots of anger there. Unless you are someone who really gains from closed press it's difficult to know from whence you come. I was pleased to be able to know about Snowden and others of his ilk, as well as in depth knowledge concerning Mr Farage. Doesn't scare me at all. I had an uncle who toured the 'work camps' in Germany in Germany and Poland during the 1940s for the Red Cross and he was so thankful when the censorship was lifted from the German press and 'ignorant' Germans were made aware of what their country had been doing. If they had known in the first place an awful war may not have transpired and the evil USSR could not have consolidated. As Hitler may have said, ignorance was bliss for him.

And where is Mr Snowden now? Russia. Brilliant! They hate homosexuals and anyone who speaks out against their leader. Definitely the place for freedom of speech!

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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bright&wright 25 Apr 14 4.23pm
Quote jcreedy at 25 Apr 2014 3.31pm Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities. Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward. Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist wnkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives. But I stray off topic. Good article, sht paper. He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention. Tommy Robinson spoke out against things he didn't feel were right and proper. Would you give him the same respect? 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.
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bright&wright

25 Apr 14 4.23pm

Quote jcreedy at 25 Apr 2014 3.31pm

Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am

Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward.

But I stray off topic. Good article, sh*t paper.

He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention.

Tommy Robinson spoke out against things he didn't feel were right and proper. Would you give him the same respect?

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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Hoof Hearted 25 Apr 14 4.36pm
The journo seems to be suggesting at the end of his article that Pulis was "conspicuous by his absence" in that photo? [Link] Watch the video on this thread. Pulis hugs every single player as they go by on their way down the tunnel. No problem at all with Sir Tony.
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Hoof Hearted 25 Apr 14 4.36pm

The journo seems to be suggesting at the end of his article that Pulis was "conspicuous by his absence" in that photo?

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Watch the video on this thread.

Pulis hugs every single player as they go by on their way down the tunnel.

No problem at all with Sir Tony.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Apr 14 4.40pm
Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 4.23pm Quote jcreedy at 25 Apr 2014 3.31pm Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities. Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward. Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist wnkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives. But I stray off topic. Good article, sht paper. He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention. Tommy Robinson spoke out against things he didn't feel were right and proper. Would you give him the same respect? Snowden spoke out about things that aren't right or proper - actual illegal survellience conducted by the state against its people, outside of the legal remit of those agencies. Tommy Robinson was just a bit of a c**t who had some opinions about Muslims. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 25 Apr 14 4.40pm

Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 4.23pm

Quote jcreedy at 25 Apr 2014 3.31pm

Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 1.08pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am

Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward.

But I stray off topic. Good article, sh*t paper.

He spoke out about things that he didn't feel were right and proper. What's wrong with that? I'm sure he didn't decide to put his own life at risk just to get a bit of attention.

Tommy Robinson spoke out against things he didn't feel were right and proper. Would you give him the same respect?

Snowden spoke out about things that aren't right or proper - actual illegal survellience conducted by the state against its people, outside of the legal remit of those agencies.

Tommy Robinson was just a bit of a c**t who had some opinions about Muslims.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Apr 14 4.44pm
Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 4.21pm Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 2.41pm Blimey Wrightandbright (was a delight to say those names once)there's lots of anger there. Unless you are someone who really gains from closed press it's difficult to know from whence you come. I was pleased to be able to know about Snowden and others of his ilk, as well as in depth knowledge concerning Mr Farage. Doesn't scare me at all. I had an uncle who toured the 'work camps' in Germany in Germany and Poland during the 1940s for the Red Cross and he was so thankful when the censorship was lifted from the German press and 'ignorant' Germans were made aware of what their country had been doing. If they had known in the first place an awful war may not have transpired and the evil USSR could not have consolidated. As Hitler may have said, ignorance was bliss for him. And where is Mr Snowden now? Russia. Brilliant! They hate homosexuals and anyone who speaks out against their leader. Definitely the place for freedom of speech! Probably the best place to avoid being extradited back to the US though, whilst awaiting an asylum application in the EU to be reviewed. As far as free speech goes, the US seem to want to charge him with treason for telling the public what their own employees were doing. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 25 Apr 14 4.44pm

Quote bright&wright at 25 Apr 2014 4.21pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 2.41pm

And where is Mr Snowden now? Russia. Brilliant! They hate homosexuals and anyone who speaks out against their leader. Definitely the place for freedom of speech!

Probably the best place to avoid being extradited back to the US though, whilst awaiting an asylum application in the EU to be reviewed.

As far as free speech goes, the US seem to want to charge him with treason for telling the public what their own employees were doing.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Apr 14 4.50pm
Quote kenbarr at 24 Apr 2014 11.47pm Having been in US Army intelligence in the 1980s I have little sympathy for either Snowden or the government. He postures as this great hero of freedom yet he took all the dosh he could while being a independent contractor during the worst of the Bush years. It was only after the Obama Administration cancelled his contract due to poor performance that he "got religion." As for the whole notion of contracting out national security, that was another one of Bush/Cheney's grand plan to line their own pockets at the expense of the people. So, they got what they paid for while the safety of the nation was contracted out to the highest bidder, namely Halliburton or one of its clones. Finally, what does anyone expect after the Patriot Act, which Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld said was absolutely necessary, was rammed through a docile Congress not once but twice? What gets me is that Tony Blair bought in to all of this. He should definitely have known better. Indeed, I'd be wary of considering him a hero for freedom or champion of justice. But I wouldn't call him a coward or a traitor either. The methods of state intrusion into everyday life is something that is concerning, and certainly as far as the UK goes is pretty much illegal (as the kind of survelliance exceeds that covered by the Home Office Warrent to which GCHQ and the Secret Services operate). We should also be concerned about what happens to that data, and where it ends up. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote kenbarr at 24 Apr 2014 11.47pm

Having been in US Army intelligence in the 1980s I have little sympathy for either Snowden or the government. He postures as this great hero of freedom yet he took all the dosh he could while being a independent contractor during the worst of the Bush years. It was only after the Obama Administration cancelled his contract due to poor performance that he "got religion." As for the whole notion of contracting out national security, that was another one of Bush/Cheney's grand plan to line their own pockets at the expense of the people. So, they got what they paid for while the safety of the nation was contracted out to the highest bidder, namely Halliburton or one of its clones. Finally, what does anyone expect after the Patriot Act, which Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld said was absolutely necessary, was rammed through a docile Congress not once but twice? What gets me is that Tony Blair bought in to all of this. He should definitely have known better.

Indeed, I'd be wary of considering him a hero for freedom or champion of justice. But I wouldn't call him a coward or a traitor either.

The methods of state intrusion into everyday life is something that is concerning, and certainly as far as the UK goes is pretty much illegal (as the kind of survelliance exceeds that covered by the Home Office Warrent to which GCHQ and the Secret Services operate).

We should also be concerned about what happens to that data, and where it ends up.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Kermit8 Hevon 25 Apr 14 6.56pm
The Guardian is a bloody superb paper. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 25 Apr 14 6.56pm

The Guardian is a bloody superb paper.

Big chest and massive boobs

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 26 Apr 14 8.05pm
Well Bright&Wright are you happy to be kept in the dark? I'm kinda glad the Guardian printed what it did, just to enlighten even you. Don't be afraid of openness, unless, of course, you have something to hide. If so, better to hear about it in a considered news media, rather than something as skewed as the Sun.
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Landrindod, Wales 26 Apr 14 8.05pm

Well Bright&Wright are you happy to be kept in the dark? I'm kinda glad the Guardian printed what it did, just to enlighten even you. Don't be afraid of openness, unless, of course, you have something to hide. If so, better to hear about it in a considered news media, rather than something as skewed as the Sun.

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bright&wright 28 Apr 14 10.13am
Quote adrian b at 26 Apr 2014 8.05pm Well Bright&Wright are you happy to be kept in the dark? I'm kinda glad the Guardian printed what it did, just to enlighten even you. Don't be afraid of openness, unless, of course, you have something to hide. If so, better to hear about it in a considered news media, rather than something as skewed as the Sun. The typical leftie-socialist comment. Everyone has a right to an opinion - as long as it's the same as theirs! I have nothing to hide, I'm all for openness. But when terrorists get inside information on Western security that puts this country under threat all because some slimey cnt wants an easy life writing articles for sht papers than rather than serve his country - then I'm going to disagree. Also, criticise America all you want - at least you have the right to. There are no blasphamy laws or laws against speaking out against the government - unlike the Middle East or Russia. 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.
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Quote adrian b at 26 Apr 2014 8.05pm

The typical leftie-socialist comment. Everyone has a right to an opinion - as long as it's the same as theirs!

I have nothing to hide, I'm all for openness. But when terrorists get inside information on Western security that puts this country under threat all because some slimey c*nt wants an easy life writing articles for sh*t papers than rather than serve his country - then I'm going to disagree.

Also, criticise America all you want - at least you have the right to. There are no blasphamy laws or laws against speaking out against the government - unlike the Middle East or Russia.

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 28 Apr 14 10.23am
From a Palace article, to whistleblowers to Hitler and death camps in three pages. Turbo tangents.
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From a Palace article, to whistleblowers to Hitler and death camps in three pages.

Turbo tangents.

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